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rwoman Nov 16, 2011 5:29 am

Union Labels DL as the "Airline of the 1%"
 
Union Labels DL as the "Airline of the 1%"

I saw this in the news...take take for what you will...

I know there are those completely for and completey against unions, especially WRT DL and the AFA.

I found some of the comments at the bottom amusing. I think most of us have had good and bad service from union and non-union staff. Although no PDB's, in my experience at least, has generally been with PMNW crews.

As a paying passenger, I may fly a lot, but it's mostly on cheap "99%" fares paid by me.

robin

aaronhurd Nov 16, 2011 5:46 am

So, what exactly are they trying to add to the FAA funding bill?

rwoman Nov 16, 2011 5:55 am


Originally Posted by aaronhurd (Post 17459610)
So, what exactly are they trying to add to the FAA funding bill?

I'm assuming it's labor-related. It's always baffled me how unrelated and related items end up on the bills our legislature drafts...

brad9696 Nov 16, 2011 6:09 am


Originally Posted by aaronhurd (Post 17459610)
So, what exactly are they trying to add to the FAA funding bill?

IIRC proposal is to link / add language to the bill that relates to Airlines and Railroads and changes to how voting to organize labor is done.

Not sure the specifics - but apparently if adopted, it will become somewhat more difficult to win employee votes for union representation (something Delta apparently would prefer).

avidflyer Nov 16, 2011 6:14 am


Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 17459650)
I'm assuming it's labor-related. It's always baffled me how unrelated and related items end up on the bills our legislature drafts...

It is called hiding the pork. An age old American way of slipping things through that do not have the steam to pass on their own. Think Trojan Horse.

jfulcher Nov 16, 2011 6:36 am


Originally Posted by brad9696 (Post 17459730)
IIRC proposal is to link / add language to the bill that relates to Airlines and Railroads and changes to how voting to organize labor is done.

Not sure the specifics - but apparently if adopted, it will become somewhat more difficult to win employee votes for union representation (something Delta apparently would prefer).

I think they want to change it back to how it was before - Obama had something passed when he came to office - I can't remember all the specifics that made mafia unions easier to vote in.

BobH Nov 16, 2011 6:41 am


Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 17459558)
Union Labels DL as the "Airline of the 1%"

I saw this in the news...take take for what you will...

....

As a paying passenger, I may fly a lot, but it's mostly on cheap "99%" fares paid by me.

robin

and how do Union officials travel on business? -- I once saw Robert Stempel on a flight out of DTW

or was he part of the one percent?

Bob H

dd992emo Nov 16, 2011 6:41 am

Any time a labor union criticizes you, you're doing something right...^

mbarreto Nov 16, 2011 6:56 am

I would think an airline like OpenSkies would be the 1%, not DL! :D

wsflyer Nov 16, 2011 6:58 am


Originally Posted by jfulcher (Post 17459847)
I think they want to change it back to how it was before - Obama had something passed when he came to office - I can't remember all the specifics that made mafia unions easier to vote in.

Former rule: to organize a union, the pro-union vote needed to be a majority of all eligible workers. Someone not voting was effectively counted as a "no" vote.

Current rule: to organize a union, the pro-union vote needs to be a majority of all workers voting.

Thus, it is easier to organize under the current rule.

The Republicans want to change back to the former rule.

DaddyRabbit Nov 16, 2011 7:00 am

Airline Unions
 

Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 17459558)
Union Labels DL as the "Airline of the 1%"

I saw this in the news...take take for what you will...

I know there are those completely for and completey against unions, especially WRT DL and the AFA.

I found some of the comments at the bottom amusing. I think most of us have had good and bad service from union and non-union staff. Although no PDB's, in my experience at least, has generally been with PMNW crews.

As a paying passenger, I may fly a lot, but it's mostly on cheap "99%" fares paid by me.

If U.S. airline union members are unhappy with their lot, I suggest they move to AsiaAir, Ryan Air, or EasyJet. They are looking for people.



robin


rwoman Nov 16, 2011 7:04 am

DaddyRabbit,

There are reasons I avoid those airlines. ;)

northwest_buckeye Nov 16, 2011 7:12 am


Originally Posted by dd992emo (Post 17459872)
Any time a labor union criticizes you, you're doing something right...^

Or when Michael Moore starts poking his chins in your face.

DeltaFan4Now Nov 16, 2011 7:50 am


Originally Posted by avidflyer (Post 17459757)
It is called hiding the pork. An age old American way of slipping things through that do not have the steam to pass on their own. Think Trojan Horse.

I love double entendres. Intentional or otherwise. Especially those which promote safe sex :D Triple entendre when you realize it's also what congress does to us, generally to increase their own power.

DL2SXM Nov 16, 2011 8:50 am

whatever happened to the flight attendants bid to join the union? Did the National Mediation board decide that there had to be a re-vote?


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