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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Apr 28, 2017, 11:56 am
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Had an interesting experience in 1A on a CRJ-200 last night.

As we were boarding, FA was doing PDBs for the Comfort+ customers in Row 1. Not sure if she was just being nice or what as I haven't seen this done before (usually at least 1 CRJ-200 a week).
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Old May 11, 2017, 11:26 pm
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Wine quality in C+

Does C+, domestic, get the cheap wines that come in small individual bottles or "decent" wine served from a 750ml bottle? Taking our 1st C+ trip later this year.
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Old May 12, 2017, 4:15 am
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Originally Posted by philemer
Does C+, domestic, get the cheap wines that come in small individual bottles or "decent" wine served from a 750ml bottle? Taking our 1st C+ trip later this year.
Same beverage service as Main Cabin, just no charge for any alcohol beverage. No service from a 750ml bottle.
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Old May 12, 2017, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by mnbp
Same beverage service as Main Cabin, just no charge for any alcohol beverage. No service from a 750ml bottle.
Thanks for the quick reply. ^
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Old May 14, 2017, 7:47 pm
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Just got a sched change on a flight in late June, and indeed the departure time changed, but also the 737-800 seatmap changed. Now showing 6 rows of C+, rows 10-15.

I've seen some comments that this was in process, but I guess it is now done for the 738 fleet, as there is only one seat map now.

I updated the Wiki to reflect the rows 10-15 change on the regular -800, but I'm reluctant to delete the block referencing the "73H", but I think it is no longer a subfleet? The wiki's 73H link is dead on Delta's site.

Cheers
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Old Jun 12, 2017, 11:47 pm
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I've searched the thread for about 10 minutes and can't find a good answer, apologies for asking about what I am certain has already been answered:

Flying SFO to JFK in C+ (unless my husband's RUC's clear) on 767-300ER (76Z VERSION 2). Generally we like bulk heads. For row 13 on this aircraft, Seatguru says that the exit door protrudes into the leg room. Can anyone confirm? If so, what is the best row for 2 people in C+? Row 14?
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by jdrtravel
I've searched the thread for about 10 minutes and can't find a good answer, apologies for asking about what I am certain has already been answered:

Flying SFO to JFK in C+ (unless my husband's RUC's clear) on 767-300ER (76Z VERSION 2). Generally we like bulkheads. For row 13 on this aircraft, Seatguru says that the exit door protrudes into the leg room. Can anyone confirm? If so, what is the best row for 2 people in C+? Row 14?
The exit slide cover does protrude into the A or G seat. Row 14 would be decent, but on a night flight I might find the vacuum lav flush a bit loud.

I sat in 17AB on a JFK-SNN overnight and, unlike my A330 experience, the last row of C+ does have full C+ recline, and has windows. Here's pics I posted upthread taken from 17A.

15 AB/FG might be OK, didn't try it, but the single window lines up reasonably well for a bit of extra shoulder room.
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 2:34 pm
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I have searched this area as well, and must have been comotosed, or the answer was not readily available.

I am wondering how Delta algorithm is determined when upgrading people to Comfort +. I had an aisle seat in economy, I got moved to a bulkhead window, while another passenger who was behind me on the upgrade list was moved into an aisle seat. My profile in Delta says aisle preferred. While not a big deal, just wondering in the future, can I do anything to snag the aisle vs. the window?
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Old Jun 19, 2017, 4:55 pm
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Any thoughts on 13F (Comfort+) vs. 21AB/FG (exit-row) on the 76Z (V2)?

It looks like 13F has decent legroom in the bulkhead but is it more than row 21? And does the lavatory open directly towards 13FG or is it on the 13AB side?

Wondering if the extra recline in Comfort+ is worth it over the aisle/lavatory position (I prefer window seats)....

Thanks!
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by SpeedRicer
Any thoughts on 13F (Comfort+) vs. 21AB/FG (exit-row) on the 76Z (V2)?

It looks like 13F has decent legroom in the bulkhead but is it more than row 21? And does the lavatory open directly towards 13FG or is it on the 13AB side?

Wondering if the extra recline in Comfort+ is worth it over the aisle/lavatory position (I prefer window seats)....

Thanks!
I'm wondering the same thing. Anyone?
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Old Jun 23, 2017, 1:43 pm
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What is the latest on the seats?

My mother will be flying LAX - SYD and considering buying Comfort+ seats.

I understand there is more legroom but are the seats themselves more comfortable? Do they have more cushioning?
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by 17jwblue17
What is the latest on the seats?

My mother will be flying LAX - SYD and considering buying Comfort+ seats.

I understand there is more legroom but are the seats themselves more comfortable? Do they have more cushioning?
No, more cushioning. It is basically the same seat design as the rest of the main cabin.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 5:35 am
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On international flights Comfort+ seats have a bit more recline.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by fpmurphy
No, more cushioning. It is basically the same seat design as the rest of the main cabin.
Originally Posted by CarmenOM
On international flights Comfort+ seats have a bit more recline.
Is it worth the additional cost?
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 10:16 am
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I think the extra recline makes a difference in my ability to sleep. I can't address whether it's worth the price because as a PM I've never had to pay for it.
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