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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Apr 19, 2013, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by stan1162
Flight is CDG-DtW

Is there any entertainment box under the seats 11 H & J impeding the leg room for my current seats of 12 H & J?

I can switch to last row of EC 14H and J.

Any thoughts?

I think there is a link in post #1 about which seats their under. That said, typically the entertainment boxes are under the same seats in every row.

Edit:

See link in this page: LINK

Looks like it is the J seats, among others.
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Old Apr 19, 2013, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by stan1162
Flight is CDG-DtW

Is there any entertainment box under the seats 11 H & J impeding the leg room for my current seats of 12 H & J?
I sat in 12A on an A330-300 last Monday going from AMS-DTW. There was definitely an entertainment box under 11A but it only partially impeded me fully stretching my legs - but good luck getting any carry on stowed down there.
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Old Apr 19, 2013, 2:26 pm
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Cool How many EC seats on 757 Transcon
Hello,

I'm traveling in August 2013 from JFK to LAX on flight DL120, which is a 757. The EC seat count now is 11 seats, but I understand from reading through the Delta forum here, that there will be more EC seats available on this plane starting this summer.

Does anyone know how many EC seats I could expect on my flight? Right now, we're in row 22ABC, which I also understand does not have a window in the A seat. My teenage son is an aviation enthusiast and would appreciate a window seat in this section.

Thx
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Old Apr 19, 2013, 2:37 pm
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I would plan on 11 and hope for more. See post #1 for feedback and pictures. Row 22 does not have a window.
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Old Apr 21, 2013, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by AKC6
Flew a reconfigured 75N this week. Rows 14 and 16/17 on the right side have more comfortable seats but no exra legroom. Row 15 is cavernous but no window. For 16F, the exit door is a slippery, diagonal footstool, much worse than 16A. Reading lights for 16/17DEF illuminate the back of your head. Per the FA's, no seats were removed.
This is helpful! Can anyone comment in particular on the window situation for 14DE on the 75N?

Flying with wife, so the two-seat will keep me out of a middle, but she has to be able to see the outside world through more than just the exit door porthole. We're not incredibly tall and this is a quick flight, so standard legroom isn't an issue for us.
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Old Apr 21, 2013, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by gooselee
This is helpful! Can anyone comment in particular on the window situation for 14DE on the 75N?

Flying with wife, so the two-seat will keep me out of a middle, but she has to be able to see the outside world through more than just the exit door porthole. We're not incredibly tall and this is a quick flight, so standard legroom isn't an issue for us.
It's been awhile, but IIRC seats are EC in name only, very tight but with a window. SeatGuru and SeatExpert pan them.
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Old Apr 21, 2013, 8:19 pm
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Originally Posted by AKC6
It's been awhile, but IIRC seats are EC in name only, very tight but with a window. SeatGuru and SeatExpert pan them.
Thanks. The perceived length of flight is impacted much more by lack of window than a smaller seat, in this case. Even just being closer to the front will help.
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Old Apr 29, 2013, 2:58 am
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A quick observation on EC. It made a redeye LAX-MEM and a CVG-LAX flight immeasurably better on a quick turn to DCA this past week. As a short guy. the extra legroom and recline made for a far more comfortable ride.
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Old Apr 30, 2013, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyDeltaJets87
I was Silver until last year. I don't think I had one flight where I wasn't in an exit row or an EC seat. Enough elites who get upgraded prior to the flight had EC seats that open up when they upgrade. Granted as more flights go BFUGs, this may be more difficult, but if there's no EC available when you check-in, some EC seats will open when upgrades process. You can always talk to the GA to move you up when he/she processes upgrades or keep an eye for open seats with the DL app.
Just to verify that I have had a couple of round trips during April as a silver, and in each case, if I was not upgraded to first class, I was indeed able to find a EC seat with no problem at the 24-hour mark.

Just to note, for connecting flights, the EC seat was not available for free until 24 hours before THAT particular segment's departure. Also, had no problem getting an EC flight at no charge for my companion on this flight.

Thanks FTers for the input.
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Old Apr 30, 2013, 10:26 pm
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I usually can successfully switch to EC at check-in. I select exit row at booking whenever it's available. Some longer hauls (ATL-PDX) where people are more apt to spend their own money for the EC seats have lower chances of success. Same with elite heavy routes or flight times (I got stuck in a middle seat on a TUS-ATL flight one Friday morning when literally 60+ people boarded in SKY zone; ATL-PBI is also pretty elite heavy and/or made up of people who are willing to come out of pocket for the EC seats). If an aisle or window in EC is available at check-in then I'll take it, especially on longer flights since the exit row seats are seriously lacking in cushioning. I'm probably successful 8/10 times.

BTW the DL app for iPad and iPhone used to not allow me to switch and I'd need to find a PC or call someone to switch for me. Since updating the app a month or two ago I am able to do it. So make sure whatever app you're using is up to date.
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Old May 3, 2013, 2:07 am
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JFK-LAX/SFO: EC - More perks
Hi Everyone,

Received this from DL last night:

Economy Comfort™ already gives you extra legroom, Priority Boarding and quicker deplaning.

Now there are three more reasons to upgrade the next time you fly between New York-JFK and San Francisco-SFO or Los Angeles-LAX:
  • Free beer, wine and spirits
  • Free premium snack
  • Complimentary newspaper

Treat yourself to a more comfortable experience on your next transcontinental flight for as low as $89.

Cheers.
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Old May 5, 2013, 10:31 pm
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Did I screw up
Didn't realize that 17F + G in the refurbished 763's had "A LOT" less legroom then the non-refurbished 763's. Spent an extra 300 bucks total so wife and I could get these seats too . Wanted to know you recommend to change these seats with Seat 20 F+G as they may have more legroom. That is my primary concern. The flight # is London-Heathrow, United Kingdom to Atlanta, GA

FLIGHT:
DL 85
AIRCRAFT:
BOEING 767-300

Thanks in Advance as I am sick I didn't realize the upgraded planes were so different.
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Old May 5, 2013, 11:32 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Hi Everyone,

Received this from DL last night:
This was well executed on my SFO-JFK on 4/26. Snack box included a bean dip, some pita chips, a piece of Ghiradelli chocolate, and a small snack bar.
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Old May 6, 2013, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by jr1202sr
Didn't realize that 17F + G in the refurbished 763's had "A LOT" less legroom then the non-refurbished 763's. Spent an extra 300 bucks total so wife and I could get these seats too . Wanted to know you recommend to change these seats with Seat 20 F+G as they may have more legroom. That is my primary concern. The flight # is London-Heathrow, United Kingdom to Atlanta, GA

FLIGHT:
DL 85
AIRCRAFT:
BOEING 767-300

Thanks in Advance as I am sick I didn't realize the upgraded planes were so different.
17FG on the refurb 763 is not as bad as row 15 on the 764 IMHO, but I would take row 20 (exit) over row 17 as I think the leg room is much better. Many do not like the lavs nearby, so it comes down to personal preference.
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Old May 6, 2013, 5:18 am
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the delta website (seat plan) shows an "*" in row 20. Do these not recline although they are EC seats?

Also, how many more inches would you say the EC in row 20 is over row 17 and/or other rows. I am a "big" guy and having more room to stretch legs out is the most important factor for me.

Thanks for everyone's help. I really do appreciate it!
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