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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Oct 2, 2012, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by ctbjr1309
rwoman, this is exactly what I was looking for. Many thanks for the info. I like that the Row 21 seats have a fold down tray table. How would you assess the leg room difference, if any, between Rows 17 and 21? Thanks again.
It's probably close, slightly favoring row 21. That said, there's no reclining seat in front of row 17.

Other potential issues at row 21 include the lavatories if they are busy and the row 22 bulkhead (CDE) seats, where children could be seated.
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Old Oct 2, 2012, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
It's probably close, slightly favoring row 21. That said, there's no reclining seat in front of row 17.

Other potential issues at row 21 include the lavatories if they are busy and the row 22 bulkhead (CDE) seats, where children could be seated.
Thanks much. Nothing's ever easy, is it? Perhaps I'll just request the complimentary BE upgrade and be done with it.
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Old Oct 6, 2012, 2:21 am
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Refurbished 767-300 ER
I will now add a data point to this thread as it relates to the issue of bulkhead (Row 17) vs. exit row seating.

Yesterday, I flew on DL 106 from JFK to FRA. We were nearly 2 hours late leaving JFK due to a lousy tug that DL assigned to our flight. Per the Captain, the tires on the tug were so bald that it couldn't tow a Cessna. As a result, we were an hour plus arriving at FRA and then found ourselves parked at a remote stand where we were treated to a wonderful bus ride to the terminal. The point of all that is that I thus experienced my window seat 17G for an additional hour plus as a result.

Having sat in a bulkhead seat on the 767-300 ER prior to refurbishment, I will say that the refurbishment has significantly reduced the available legroom. Previously, there was a ton of legroom such that my feet wouldn't even reach the wall. That is no longer the case. I took the time to look longingly at the exit row seats (rows 20 and 21) which appear to have more legroom than row 17.

Next time I'll go with row 21 and see if my observation is accurate.
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Old Oct 6, 2012, 6:28 am
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Rather ironically in relation to the above poster I flew LHR-ATL on Monday in 17A on DLs typical 767-400ER for that route. Having not been a regular traveler in business this was by far the best international flight I have ever had in Eco. Seats were comfortable, FAs were friendly and greeting all EC customers by name (this surprised me) Legroom was comfortable.

The only slight concern was the amount of recline. The seat in front significantly intrudes into your space when fully reclined, and the rather inconsiderate PAX in front of me nearly destroyed my Mac by reclining the whole way in one swoop without so much as looking behind him. I would suggest that the recline should be returned to normal.

I do have some photos, will post at a later date.

Also to note - row 17 is NOT over the wing as previously stated. It is in fact level with the front of the engine pod.
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 9:27 am
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At what point (if any) do Economy Comfort seats become complimentary? Or will DL send planes out with these seats empty? I have no status with DL and am flying it this evening. Only seats available on the seatmap are EC.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Ross0
At what point (if any) do Economy Comfort seats become complimentary? Or will DL send planes out with these seats empty? I have no status with DL and am flying it this evening. Only seats available on the seatmap are EC.

Thanks!
EC would only be "free" if you waited until the gate for a seat assignment and it was all the gate agent had left. I've seen them offer to move Medallions from regular Y seats before they just assigned them to those waiting for a seat assignment.

Unless the seat is needed, DL will send planes out with empty EC seats and FA's tend to enforce against poachers.

As people are upgraded, misconnect, etc. other regular economy seats may open up and you could end up placed there if you do not select a seat.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Yes Jul05 DL172 NRT JFK 74S 22K had 110v "limited" power. It measured at .58A with my pocket multimeter.
Anyone know if the 110V AC is in all of EC On the 747S. I'm traveling ATL-NRT end of Nov on DL295 seat 26H
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by stewie7669
Anyone know if the 110V AC is in all of EC On the 747S. I'm traveling ATL-NRT end of Nov on DL295 seat 26H
As of 17 October I think all of the 744s are upgraded, so there should be an outlet.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
As of 17 October I think all of the 744s are upgraded, so there should be an outlet.
This must be something really brand new as seatguru.com reports that 747S in EC does not have any kind of power at all. Delta.com says that EC on 747 only has USB power.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by stewie7669
This must be something really brand new as seatguru.com reports that 747S in EC does not have any kind of power at all. Delta.com says that EC on 747 only has USB power.
I know the updated 763 had USB and outlets. You may want to check the thread on the updated 744s - it's referenced in post #1.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
I know the updated 763 had USB and outlets. You may want to check the thread on the updated 744s - it's referenced in post #1.
Funny.... I asked this question in the 747 thread... And instead of getting an actual answer, I was just given a link to THIS thread!
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 9:40 am
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Funny.... I asked this question in the 747 thread... And instead of getting an actual answer, I was just given a link to THIS thread!
Based on this thread, I think there are power ports.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ce-update.html
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by stewie7669
Anyone know if the 110V AC is in all of EC On the 747S. I'm traveling ATL-NRT end of Nov on DL295 seat 26H
Originally Posted by stewie7669
This must be something really brand new as seatguru.com reports that 747S in EC does not have any kind of power at all. Delta.com says that EC on 747 only has USB power.
Originally Posted by rwoman
Based on this thread, I think there are power ports.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ce-update.html
Yes there are 110V underseat power ports in the 74S that I have been on.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by T.J. Bender
Avoid row 10 on 738s. On older models of the aircraft, the seats don't recline (for no apparent reason at all).

I stick with row 11 or 12 on 738s, as the second exit row typically doesn't recline either.
This seems to be fixed now. I was in 10C on monday between PHL and DTW and had full recline on an older 738. 10C/D are both my favorite 738 EC seats because the bulkhead doesn't extend all the way to the isle, so I end up being able to stretch my feet out all the way to the last row of F.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 1:53 pm
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I'm quite happy to report that I have a 100% success rate of moving to Economy Comfort during check-in for my flights. This is over my last five flights now. How is everyone else doing?
they would not let me do that in Tampa ,going through Atlanta to Kansas City. I was Silver then ( now Gold) and they said I had to pay 75% of fee. I went to Skylounge ( Bus Plat) and fellow at the desk there kindly made the change to EC. So I guess it all depends.
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