Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
Last edit by: RaflW
Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
A few general notes regarding DL C+:
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)
747-400 / 744 / 74S:
777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)
767-300 / 76P / 76Q
757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
737-800 / 738 / 73H:
737-700 / 73W:
MD-88 / M88:
MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
A320-200 / 32R:
A320-200/32K
A319-100/319
A319-100/31J
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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).
Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html
C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.
Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK
Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.
Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html
Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK
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KLM - Economy Comfort
klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
- C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
- Sky Priority boarding
- Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
- Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™(No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)- On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included
A few general notes regarding DL C+:
- On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
- The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
- The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
- Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)
747-400 / 744 / 74S:
- dl.com seat map: 747-400
Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats. - Legroom:
Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest. - Related Threads and Posts:
EC Bulkheads on the 74S
Economy Comfort on 747-400
The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK
777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
- dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests. - Legroom:
Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
My pictures of row 31 - LINK
777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions
A330-300 / A333:
- dl.com seat maps: A333 / A3L3
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
NOTE: All of the A330-300s have been modified or are in the process of being modified.
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
- Legroom:
- A333 - 10 AB and 10HJ have a bulkhead/galley in front of them.
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
JulienMSP's comments on A330 EC: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...der-767-a.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Economy Comfort on A330-300s?
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread [Merged Threads]
tentseller's review of the A333 - LINK.
kpfleming's thoughts on EC (dis)comfort (A333) - LINK
rwoman's picture of 10J (A333) - LINK
c_d's pictures of 11J and the entertainment box that impedes legroom (A333) - LINK
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
A330-200 / A332:
- dl.com seat maps: A332 / A3L2
- A332: C+ is rows 10-13
- Legroom:
- A332 - Row 10 and row 11 C/G have ample legroom.
- A3L2 - Row 10 is the bulkhead row. The J cabin is on the other side of the bulkhead.
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
nabilm92's Trip Report on the A332, including row 10 HJ and pics of EC - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...e-sea-hkg.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
c_d's pictures of 11D and 11F and the entertainment boxes that impede legroom (A332) - LINK; comments on 11D and 11F (A332) - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on 11C and 11G, which have excellent leg room and row 10. Also row 11 has moveable armrests across the row (A332) - LINK
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
- dl.com seat map: LINK
C+ is rows 15-18 - Legroom:
On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764. - IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage. - Related Threads and Posts:
Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL
767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
- dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
- 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
- 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
- 76L - Rows 16-21
- 76T - Rows 17-21
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs. - Legroom:
The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows. - Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK
757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
- dl.com - 757-200 (75S)
44 C+ Seats - Rows 18-25
NOTE: There is a slide on the exit row door in front of 19A that can impede legroom. There is no window at row 22. - Legroom: Rows 19 and 18 are the bulkhead seats.
- IFE: All Y seats have AVOD. Movies are complimentary in EC
- Related Posts and Threads:
757-200 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
757s
When will the transcon 757-200 BE lie flat's be ready?
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)
767-300 / 76P / 76Q
- dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
C+ is rows 10-14 - Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
- Related Threads and Posts:
gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK
757-300 / 753:
- dl.com: 757-300 / 753
C+ is rows 14-18 - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and ISP - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and Posts for the 753s:
The Official Delta 757-300 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
lamont2718's feedback regarding restricted legroom in 16DEF: LINK
14A/B on the 757-300
757-300 seat 14A any good?
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
- 757/75U:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
C+ is rows 21-23 ABC and 19-22 DEF. - IFE:
This a/c has overhead screens. - Related Threads and Posts:
Why no EC Seat in bulkhead of 757? Can't find answer on seat guru
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
- 75D/H:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
C+ is rows 15-20 ABC and 15-16; 18-20 DEF - IFE:
This a/c has AVOD and ISP - Related Threads and Posts:
None
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
- 75G:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75G
- IFE:
None - Related Threads and Posts:
None
- 75X:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
EC is rows 20-23 ABC and 19-23 DEF - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power ports. - Related Threads and Posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...tter-seat.html
75X Y exit row best
Every1 Get A Life's feedback on the 75X overwing exits - LINK
gooslee's feedback on PTV equipped 75X's - LINK and LINK
gooselee's feedback on row 23 on the 75X - LINK
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
737-900ER / 739
- dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power. - Legroom:
The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great. - Related Threads and Posts:
twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
Best seat on 737-900ER?
737-800 / 738 / 73H:
- 737-800 / 738:
- dl.com:
- 737-800 / 738
C+ is rows 10-15 - IFE:
This a/c has overhead video. - Legroom:
Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
- 737-800 / 73H:
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
C+ is rows 10-12. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs. - Legroom:
Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat. - Related Threads and Comments:
None
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
737-700 / 73W:
- dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
C+ is rows 10-12. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs. - Legroom:
Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3. - Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK
MD-88 / M88:
- dl.com: MD-88 / M88
C+ is rows 10-14 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
Row 10 has very good legroom. - Related Threads and Posts:
javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK
MD-90 / M90
- dl.com: M-90 / M90
C+ is rows 10-14. - IFE:
This a/c is equipped with ISP in rows 10-12 only - Legroom:
There is a soft wall in front of row 10. 10C is not necessarily recommended due to the aisle shift between the F and Y cabins. Reviews of room for row 13, the first regular row of Y have been acceptable. - Related Threads and Posts:
Misconfigured C+ seating on certain MD-90 aircraft
Seat 10C on the MD-90 - why does it even exist??
MD-90 Aircraft: The Definitive Thread
MD-90 Economy bulkhead
717:
- dl.com: 717
C+ is Rows 10-12 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
- Related Threads and Posts:
Boeing 717: The Definitive Thread
mattp1987's photos of the 717 - LINK
A321-200:
- dl.com: A321
C+ is rows 10-14 - IFE:
PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi - Legroom:
RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin - Related threads and posts:
None
A320-200 / 32R:
- dl.com: A320/32R
C+ is rows 4-6 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments
A320-200/32K
- dl.com: A320 / 32K
C+ is rows 10-12 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related threads and posts:
None
A319-100/319
- dl.com: A319 / 319
C+ is rows 4-6 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and posts:
akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.
A319-100/31J
- dl.com: A319 / 31J
C+ is rows 10-12 - IFE:
This a/c is equipped with AVOD - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and posts:
None
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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).
Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html
C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.
Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK
Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.
Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html
Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK
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KLM - Economy Comfort
klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
FAQ: Comfort+ Seating
Jun 26, 2012, 5:36 pm
#616
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So I have KOA to LAX coming up on a 757-200 v1
https://www.delta.com/planning_reser...-200/index.jsp
I'm in 19E / 19F right now and suspect there is a ton of legroom but as its an overnight (only 6 hours) that we might get more sleep a few rows back?
Thoughts? If I read this thread correct the exit row does not recline nearly as much.
Row 21 ABC is already full. Thanks!
https://www.delta.com/planning_reser...-200/index.jsp
I'm in 19E / 19F right now and suspect there is a ton of legroom but as its an overnight (only 6 hours) that we might get more sleep a few rows back?
Thoughts? If I read this thread correct the exit row does not recline nearly as much.
Row 21 ABC is already full. Thanks!
Jun 26, 2012, 9:29 pm
#617
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JFK-IST in EC
On the outbound the wife and I have 18A/B and on the way back we have 19E and 19C. When I first booked, 19A/B was the only A/B F/G seats open that wasn't an exit row. As we are both big/tall people we need a lot of space and seatguru said that 19 A/B had reduced pitch and recline. My question is, was not getting 19A/B a mistake since we may get someone in the middle seat on the way back?
Jun 26, 2012, 9:44 pm
#618
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On the outbound the wife and I have 18A/B and on the way back we have 19E and 19C. When I first booked, 19A/B was the only A/B F/G seats open that wasn't an exit row. As we are both big/tall people we need a lot of space and seatguru said that 19 A/B had reduced pitch and recline. My question is, was not getting 19A/B a mistake since we may get someone in the middle seat on the way back?
Jun 26, 2012, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh:18824597
Even so moving up infants for free is unfair to the people sitting up there regardless of if they are no-status and paid to be up front or if it's someone that is sitting up there due to their status with Delta. People want to sit in Economy COMFORT because it should be more relaxing.
There was another thread I can't remember now taking about holding the last row or two (or more on leisure routes) of each flight for families and groups trying to get reseated at the gate, and this is more reason that that would be a solid idea. If more seats are needed, maybe at least grab the medallions and paying pax from the preferred seats and put them in EC rather than the randos looking for a favor from the GA...
Jun 26, 2012, 11:13 pm
#620
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737-800 ec 11f
I flew MSP-SAN on Sun 6/24 in 11F on the 737-800 ( with overhead TVs 
). My only other experience in EC had been on the A330-300 from AMS-SEA in January - which was well worth what I paid.
After Sunday's flight, I won't select EC on the 738s anymore. I'm 6'1 and I'll gladly take the legroom in the exit over the slight additional recline. Honestly, the EC seat did not feel any different than traditional economy to me.
I'm flying this weekend domestically in EC on the 763s and 752s. Hopefully this is a better experience, otherwise I'm switching back to exits on my domestic flying.
Just my two cents!
). My only other experience in EC had been on the A330-300 from AMS-SEA in January - which was well worth what I paid. After Sunday's flight, I won't select EC on the 738s anymore. I'm 6'1 and I'll gladly take the legroom in the exit over the slight additional recline. Honestly, the EC seat did not feel any different than traditional economy to me.
I'm flying this weekend domestically in EC on the 763s and 752s. Hopefully this is a better experience, otherwise I'm switching back to exits on my domestic flying.
Just my two cents!
Jun 27, 2012, 6:51 am
#621
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As a non-elite that regularly pays for domestic preferred and EC, I agree that I'd be more than a little peeved if families, UMs, and E-fares were plopped up there for free just because the seats happen to be open because they were held until check-in.
There was another thread I can't remember now taking about holding the last row or two (or more on leisure routes) of each flight for families and groups trying to get reseated at the gate, and this is more reason that that would be a solid idea. If more seats are needed, maybe at least grab the medallions and paying pax from the preferred seats and put them in EC rather than the randos looking for a favor from the GA...
There was another thread I can't remember now taking about holding the last row or two (or more on leisure routes) of each flight for families and groups trying to get reseated at the gate, and this is more reason that that would be a solid idea. If more seats are needed, maybe at least grab the medallions and paying pax from the preferred seats and put them in EC rather than the randos looking for a favor from the GA...
If you are GM+ on an E fare you can't sit in EC for free if there are empty seats? I knew with an E fare, you couldn't select your own seats, but I thought an E fare was still upgradeable. If they will seat you in F if firs tis avialable, I would thinkg they would seat you in EC for free. If I was flying on an E fare and stuck in the back and a family with no status got moved to EC I would also be more than a little peeved even if they were on higher than a LUT fare.
If it's the thread I think you are referring to, I was the person that made the suggestion of reserving the last few rows for family seating. There were people complaining about families not getting seated together after schedule/Equipement swaps or even at booking. But then others were saying some families were being too cheap to pay for preferred seating so they would chose middle seats for free in the more desiareable parts of the plan instead of paying to sit together in premium seats and then askign people in the aisle and window seats to switch those seats for their middle seats
It wouldn't surprise me if one person would pay for EC if it looked like a light load hoping the adjacent seat would be empty and then moving up to EC after boarding for free.
Jun 27, 2012, 7:14 am
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Avoid Row 15 on the 764
I recently flew to LHR in 15G on the 764 and can share that it is NOT a good seat. I tend to like bulkhead seats and ignored the soft warnings against this seat (my apologies rwoman, I will never doubt you again). In my estimation there was only about 20 inches between the seat front and hard wall with no foot cutouts. As a result it is very difficult to stretch out in any appreciable fashion to sleep on the redeye flight. The only benefit is that you can lean against the window a bit and you are one of the first coach paxs off the plane.
On my return flight I selected 17C and had a much more enjoyable ride. This was probably aided by the fact that I had the row to myself. Even without this benefit it would have been better as I could really stretch out and relax in this seat. I also tried out D, which had a bit of a bar under 16C which impinged on my legroom a bit, and E, which has the equipment box for the AVOD system. I would definitely say that the C seat was the best of the middle three.
On my return flight I selected 17C and had a much more enjoyable ride. This was probably aided by the fact that I had the row to myself. Even without this benefit it would have been better as I could really stretch out and relax in this seat. I also tried out D, which had a bit of a bar under 16C which impinged on my legroom a bit, and E, which has the equipment box for the AVOD system. I would definitely say that the C seat was the best of the middle three.
Jun 27, 2012, 9:09 am
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Yesterday we flew DL95 from BCN=JFK and paid for 10HJ $69, bulkhead exit row. seats were fine, great having space to stand up that is almost your own. Only downside was the BC flight attendants had little interest in getting us the included drinks even though their station was across the seat from us, and the coach attendants couldn't have been bothered. Ps: the entertainment system was down the entire flight.
Jun 27, 2012, 8:51 pm
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And you would have plenty of reason to move than a little peeved.
If you are GM+ on an E fare you can't sit in EC for free if there are empty seats? I knew with an E fare, you couldn't select your own seats, but I thought an E fare was still upgradeable. If they will seat you in F if firs tis avialable, I would thinkg they would seat you in EC for free. If I was flying on an E fare and stuck in the back and a family with no status got moved to EC I would also be more than a little peeved even if they were on higher than a LUT fare.
If it's the thread I think you are referring to, I was the person that made the suggestion of reserving the last few rows for family seating. There were people complaining about families not getting seated together after schedule/Equipement swaps or even at booking. But then others were saying some families were being too cheap to pay for preferred seating so they would chose middle seats for free in the more desiareable parts of the plan instead of paying to sit together in premium seats and then askign people in the aisle and window seats to switch those seats for their middle seats It wouldn't surprise me if one person would pay for EC if it looked like a light load hoping the adjacent seat would be empty and then moving up to EC after boarding for free.
If you are GM+ on an E fare you can't sit in EC for free if there are empty seats? I knew with an E fare, you couldn't select your own seats, but I thought an E fare was still upgradeable. If they will seat you in F if firs tis avialable, I would thinkg they would seat you in EC for free. If I was flying on an E fare and stuck in the back and a family with no status got moved to EC I would also be more than a little peeved even if they were on higher than a LUT fare.
If it's the thread I think you are referring to, I was the person that made the suggestion of reserving the last few rows for family seating. There were people complaining about families not getting seated together after schedule/Equipement swaps or even at booking. But then others were saying some families were being too cheap to pay for preferred seating so they would chose middle seats for free in the more desiareable parts of the plan instead of paying to sit together in premium seats and then askign people in the aisle and window seats to switch those seats for their middle seats
It wouldn't surprise me if one person would pay for EC if it looked like a light load hoping the adjacent seat would be empty and then moving up to EC after boarding for free.
Jun 27, 2012, 9:50 pm
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Jun 28, 2012, 8:53 am
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I posted this on another thread (Bulkhead Seats Available at Booking?) but never got a response. Since bulkhead seats are EC, I suppose this applies to this thread as well.
Can anyone tell me if PM/DM do, in fact, have exclusive access to bulkhead EC seats prior to check-in?
Is this [the ability to choose EC bulkhead seats at booking] a perk for PM/DM only? I have never seen the bulkhead available before T-24 as a GM.
I just booked some domestic flights on 757s, and found that one configuration (753) has 5 rows of EC on the left and 3 rows of EC on the right, all of which are blocked off except for the last two rows on each side. So 11 of the 23 EC seats are blocked off in this configuration.
I just booked some domestic flights on 757s, and found that one configuration (753) has 5 rows of EC on the left and 3 rows of EC on the right, all of which are blocked off except for the last two rows on each side. So 11 of the 23 EC seats are blocked off in this configuration.
Jun 28, 2012, 11:27 am
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I posted this on another thread (Bulkhead Seats Available at Booking?) but never got a response. Since bulkhead seats are EC, I suppose this applies to this thread as well.
Can anyone tell me if PM/DM do, in fact, have exclusive access to bulkhead EC seats prior to check-in?
Can anyone tell me if PM/DM do, in fact, have exclusive access to bulkhead EC seats prior to check-in?
Jun 28, 2012, 11:47 am
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- Domestic EC is defined as "Flights within the US and to/from Canada, Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean"
- And for all those wondering about the MINIMUM extra legroom, domestic EC now specifies "3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom"
- The extra recline on domestic EC is explained as "Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL to/from HNL)"
Jun 28, 2012, 11:57 am
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So apparently there are just some flights where either the bulkhead is either booked up right away or where it is held until check-in.
Jun 28, 2012, 2:36 pm
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I note that the thread you referenced was from before domestic EC was rolled out, at which time bulkhead seats weren't available before check-in. However, now that bulkhead on domestic airports is part of EC, it has always shown as available at time of purchase.