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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jun 14, 12, 11:46 pm
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Since the EC cost thread has been closed, I'd like to add here that as a non-elite, bunches of "preferred" seats still become available to me at T-24, for a lower cost than EC.

ATL-LGA and back, EC seats are $29 and are available from time of booking until boarding. Preferred seats are $19 and become available at T-24 as usual.

The miserable part is that before EC officially launched, they were just listed as "preferred" so I could get them a the lower cost at T-24. Luckily, the 757 I'm on tomorrow does NOT classify the overwing exits as EC as they don't recline (which I don't care about on a 2 hour flight), so I'm able to still snag them at the lower price.
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Originally Posted by gooselee View Post
Since the EC cost thread has been closed, I'd like to add here that as a non-elite, bunches of "preferred" seats still become available to me at T-24, for a lower cost than EC.

ATL-LGA and back, EC seats are $29 and are available from time of booking until boarding. Preferred seats are $19 and become available at T-24 as usual.

The miserable part is that before EC officially launched, they were just listed as "preferred" so I could get them a the lower cost at T-24. Luckily, the 757 I'm on tomorrow does NOT classify the overwing exits as EC as they don't recline (which I don't care about on a 2 hour flight), so I'm able to still snag them at the lower price.
No worries, as it was an error, I opened another one.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...rt-ec-faq.html
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Originally Posted by gooselee View Post
Since the EC cost thread has been closed, I'd like to add here that as a non-elite, bunches of "preferred" seats still become available to me at T-24, for a lower cost than EC.

ATL-LGA and back, EC seats are $29 and are available from time of booking until boarding. Preferred seats are $19 and become available at T-24 as usual.

The miserable part is that before EC officially launched, they were just listed as "preferred" so I could get them a the lower cost at T-24. Luckily, the 757 I'm on tomorrow does NOT classify the overwing exits as EC as they don't recline (which I don't care about on a 2 hour flight), so I'm able to still snag them at the lower price.
Also, thanks for the feedback - ATL-LGA is on the spreadsheet!
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OP, nice job on post 1.
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OP, nice job on post 1.
Thanks, mnredfox!
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Wow! Thanks for this! I've got a flight coming up in EC on a 777 at the end of the year and was just wondering if it would be worth trying to get row 31 from the GA when I get there. Sounds like it might be better than 34. My only question not covered here is whether or not having a window seat in 31 is worth it or if you're still just looking at a whole lot of wing?
I have a full fare ticket and I was wondering if I want seat 31A, I usually fly in seats 32-36 with the economy plus but I like the window and on full flights I hate having to bug to people to cross over. So I was wondering if the view was good and did the width of the seat hamper your ability to relax?
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OP, nice job on post 1.
+1 Agree Rwoman is doing an amazing job with this.
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No worries, as it was an error, I opened another one.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...rt-ec-faq.html
Ahh, thanks! I was wondering what was going on there

I knew ATL-LGA was already on the spreadsheet, but wanted to provide the added data point of no price change and availability of non-EC preferred at T-24 for non-elites. Basically, availability seems to be working as advertised.
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Hello All, question for the group.

I will be flying from DTW to LAS and options left for EC are rows 14 & 15 (which would be nice since I'll be with the Mrs.) and three seats each in 16 & 17, all of these are on the right side. Any particular pro's or con's I should be aware of with these options? Inclined to choose row 14...
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Originally Posted by bigsarge1995 View Post
I have a full fare ticket and I was wondering if I want seat 31A, I usually fly in seats 32-36 with the economy plus but I like the window and on full flights I hate having to bug to people to cross over. So I was wondering if the view was good and did the width of the seat hamper your ability to relax?
I recall there were two windows (correct me if I'm wrong). The width is an issue because of the tray table and the IFE. It will depend on how large you are and what you find comfortable. You'll also have to let B and C know you're getting up, or if you're an athlete, jump over them, because they will be stretching out and occupying the bulkhead space.
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Originally Posted by trev9901 View Post
Hello All, question for the group.

I will be flying from DTW to LAS and options left for EC are rows 14 & 15 (which would be nice since I'll be with the Mrs.) and three seats each in 16 & 17, all of these are on the right side. Any particular pro's or con's I should be aware of with these options? Inclined to choose row 14...
Flew a reconfigured 75N this week. Rows 14 and 16/17 on the right side have more comfortable seats but no exra legroom. Row 15 is cavernous but no window. For 16F, the exit door is a slippery, diagonal footstool, much worse than 16A. Reading lights for 16/17DEF illuminate the back of your head. Per the FA's, no seats were removed.
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Flew a reconfigured 75N this week. Rows 14 and 16/17 on the right side have more comfortable seats but no exra legroom. Row 15 is cavernous but no window. For 16F, the exit door is a slippery, diagonal footstool, much worse than 16A. Reading lights for 16/17DEF illuminate the back of your head. Per the FA's, no seats were removed.
Thanks for the input - I've added it to Post #1.
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Thanks for the input - I've added it to Post #1.
You're welcome. Glad to help. You're doing a whale of a job.

I talked with several FF'ers grousing about the reconfigured 75N, a real disappointment. The ABC seats had at most an inch's more legroom and slightly misaligned reading lamps, but the seats are firmer and more comfortable.

Also flew on a CRJ-900. An inch or two extra legroom, firmer and more comfortable seats, but that's about it. No issues with the reading lamps.

[move the 900 comments to that thread if you want]
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Two quick questions:

I'm flying SEA-HNL at the end of June, and HNL-SEA on the return. When my reservation was initially made by a third party, I was seated in row 28 or something. But, with my Alaska MVP perks I was able to move to a "preferred seat" (17D). Apparently, the aircraft now has 'Economy Comfort'. I wanted to move up one row to 16C, but Delta wants to charge me $79.

Question #1: Why would I be charged for moving from one Economy Comfort seat to another Economy Comfort seat, just one row apart? I asked a Delta rep over the phone and she was somewhat clueless.

Question #2: I flew Economy Comfort to Japan earlier this year, so I got free alcohol during my trip. I asked the Delta rep on the phone if I'd receive the same amenity on Economy Comfort to Hawaii, and she said "yes". Can anyone vouch for this, is there free booze on Economy Comfort from mainland to/from Hawaii?


Thanks! And, if anyone has Delta Sky Club access on June 28 late afternoon in SEA, lemme know.
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Delta recently made a devaluation requiring AS elites to pay for Economy Comfort in advance on domestic flights. And domestic EC is only a bigger seat, no free adult beverages. Plus no upgrades either- or even Mai Tais
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