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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old May 1, 2012, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
The only seats that beat row 44 on the DL triple 7 is row 31. If you value legroom then stay in row 44 on the outside sets of three.
I use my hardshell carryon as an ottoman and 31D/F has been very good to me.
Is Row 44 on the 77L completely missing a window at the window seats? (wall instead of window)
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Old May 1, 2012, 9:36 pm
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Is Row 44 on the 77L completely missing a window at the window seats? (wall instead of window)
IIRC, there's a window...
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Old May 5, 2012, 1:01 pm
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Was on SFO-NRT on 4/27. Coach was about 20% full, while EC might have had one or two pax. It was a 2x3x2 config and unruly pax moved about to take up the center rows even before the door closing. I had actually asked the FA nicely if I could move after the flight took off and the seat belt light went out. This was extremely frustrating. Yet I was forbidden to move to EC.

Interestingly, on return flight NRT-SFO on 5/2, I was upgraded to exit row window EC (21G) automatically by the system. Might have been oversold in Y? Then, apparently there was some mix up and two pax were both booked to 19G. The FA had the gall to ask me to move to an aisle EC seat in the front without the extra legroom. I flat out told her I'd move if you move me to J (angled flat... really not worth it much).

By the way, my aisle seatmate in EC actually paid $120 for the EC seat. Only to find that she was next to the lav that was literally being used throughout the entire flight, non-stop.
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Old May 8, 2012, 5:04 pm
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Question Window Economy Comfort or Aisle Seat?
Hi all.

I will be flying to Amsterdam on an Airbus A330-200. I currently have an Aisle seat (H) in economy. It looks like the only Economy Comfort seats left are 13A (window seat) or 3 middle section seats (definite nos).

I always book an aisle seat when I fly as to not disturb the other passenger...be able to freely move around, etc.

Should I pay the extra $120 for the seat? Keep in mind... I'm 6ft.

My father, who is 6'4" said that it really wasn't worth it, but I'm thinking maybe the height difference would be significant?

Let me know your thoughts! Thanks!
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Old May 8, 2012, 5:29 pm
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The extra 4-5" of pitch in most EC configs is not enough to allow a window or middle person to get past the aisle person. You could wait to upgrade if an aisle EC comes open, but there are likely a LOT of folks waiting the the same event.
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Old May 8, 2012, 6:26 pm
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How important is it to you to get up without disturbing others, vs how cramped do you feel in a standard Y seat?
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Old May 8, 2012, 6:38 pm
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That's my dilemma... I don't know which I feel is more important, but with this being my first international flight, I do worry a lot about my comfort, but also being able to get up every few hours to walk around.
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Old May 8, 2012, 9:38 pm
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One of the big advantages to EC is the extra space it gives you when the person in front of you is fully reclined. On a long flight like that, I'd imagine that the seat in front of you will be reclined quite a bit. Without EC, working on a laptop, eating, even reading is uncomfortable.

If you plan on sleeping most of the flight or just watching IFE, then not as big a deal.

People in the middle/aisle will be fine if you get up a couple times and walk around, that is normal. Just don't do it every 30 minutes or hour. I also will get up to walk around, get a drink, go to the bathroom, etc anytime either person gets up (even if I don't have to).
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Old May 8, 2012, 9:52 pm
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For some reason, my impression of the A330 EC section is that it does not feel like as much extra space as some of the other Delta planes.

If you want to be able to get up frequently, I would save the money and just select an aisle seat.

You can certainly buy into EC and then check the seat maps, especially as you get closer to your flight date as they do change and seats do sometimes open up.

I'm not sure where you are flying from but that may be a factor too. A 6 hour flight is alot easier to tolerate in a plain jane economy seat than an 11 hour flight.
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Old May 8, 2012, 10:05 pm
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Old May 8, 2012, 10:06 pm
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Old May 8, 2012, 10:27 pm
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Heading eastbound DTW-LHR soon and am currently seated in 15G. I can choose any of the seats in row 15 currently along with several options in 16 and 17. Row 30 is booked so sliding back to the exit row is not an option. Can anybody compare the legroom for this bulkhead seat to 24G on the 747? I have flown that option several times and found it to be very acceptable. While you can't stretch out as much as in other EC seats, you do not have anyone reclining into you and have direct aisle access.
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Old May 8, 2012, 10:40 pm
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Heading eastbound DTW-LHR soon and am currently seated in 15G. I can choose any of the seats in row 15 currently along with several options in 16 and 17. Row 30 is booked so sliding back to the exit row is not an option. Can anybody compare the legroom for this bulkhead seat to 24G on the 747? I have flown that option several times and found it to be very acceptable. While you can't stretch out as much as in other EC seats, you do not have anyone reclining into you and have direct aisle access.
The legroom is soso - if you search this thread, I've posted pictures. I would stick with a window seat so you can lean to sleep. Keep in mind the sun comes up on the G side of the a/c very early this time of year...
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Old May 9, 2012, 4:41 am
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I have flown this leg on the configuration, and you should go for the extra leg space. its totally worth it. i am 6 ft 2, and economy comfort felt much better than economy.
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Old May 9, 2012, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by slipbeer
For some reason, my impression of the A330 EC section is that it does not feel like as much extra space as some of the other Delta planes.

If you want to be able to get up frequently, I would save the money and just select an aisle seat.

You can certainly buy into EC and then check the seat maps, especially as you get closer to your flight date as they do change and seats do sometimes open up.

I'm not sure where you are flying from but that may be a factor too. A 6 hour flight is alot easier to tolerate in a plain jane economy seat than an 11 hour flight.

I don't think I normally get up that often during a flight...maybe once or twice (longest flight 4 hours), but I want to be able to walk around/stretch as to prevent DVT (normally I wouldn't be worried, but I've had two young, healthy friends develop blood clots..so a bit paranoid). but I think getting up every 2 hours.

It's a 9 hour flight, so I think that'd be okay?
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