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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jun 10, 2019, 6:55 pm
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If DL is still selling C+ on a given flight, but the seat map shows no C+ seats available, I'm guessing it's a bad idea to choose a C+ fare? Or am I missing something. This would be a straight C+ purchase, not an upgrade.

Seems like a goofy question but I rarely fly DL. I mainly care about the extra legroom and overhead space.
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Old Jun 10, 2019, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by ctbarron
If DL is still selling C+ on a given flight, but the seat map shows no C+ seats available, I'm guessing it's a bad idea to choose a C+ fare? Or am I missing something. This would be a straight C+ purchase, not an upgrade.

Seems like a goofy question but I rarely fly DL. I mainly care about the extra legroom and overhead space.
"Bad idea" - depends on your objective. Not all C+ seats show as "available" on the seat map even if unselected. Depending on aircraft, a few C+ seats are blocked for airport assignment if necessary. Also, since DL manages C+ inventory, their algorithms may have already determined the odds that they will upgrade x number of people out of C+ into F, thus allowing them to sell more C+ seats.

If you only want C+ if you can get the seat you like, then you probably should not purchase C+ without knowing for sure which seat you can get. But, if you'd prefer C+ no matter which seat is assigned, then go ahead and purchase - and enjoy C+.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 1:07 pm
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I promise I tried to find this. Flying CVG to CDG in Comfort. (it's one of the numerous versions of the 767 Delta has!) As seen below I have seat 13F, but scanning it looks like bathroom may be a big issue. Of the options left which would you take? I can have an aisle seat on the 2 side on any row (Either F or B) Or take a chance on the Aisle seat on row 15 or 17 (3 seats) 15 shows on seat guru as having reduced leg room, but I am not sure I trust seat guru!

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Old Jul 30, 2019, 11:44 am
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bulk head center (row 16) on 76L

I have searched the site for an answer, but all the answers I found were from 2015 or earlier.

I am wondering if the bulkhead row (16 CDE) is limited space or if there is enough space for my feet. It not clear to me from either the seating map or SeatGuru if I am better in 16E or 17E (my present space).
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Orange County Commuter
I promise I tried to find this. Flying CVG to CDG in Comfort. (it's one of the numerous versions of the 767 Delta has!) As seen below I have seat 13F, but scanning it looks like bathroom may be a big issue. Of the options left which would you take? I can have an aisle seat on the 2 side on any row (Either F or B) Or take a chance on the Aisle seat on row 15 or 17 (3 seats) 15 shows on seat guru as having reduced leg room, but I am not sure I trust seat guru!

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I am on the same configuration CVG-CDG soon and I have scoured this site and the internet to no avail. Anyone have first hand knowledge of row 13? Is there a bulkhead wall or just an emergency exit window? Bathroom proximity an issue? Here’s to hoping the aircraft gets changed before my trip. This seems like a really bad C+ layout.
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Old Nov 8, 2019, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by RaflW

-- Row 12: Seats 12A/12F I would rate avoid, from how crammed the pax in front of me looked. No window, and they have very narrow seat backs due to the fuselage space taken up by the exit door frame - These might be the seats the DL web site lists as being 16.3" wide? It looked like 12BC/DE were somewhat narrower than standard. Since the std A321 seat is 18", 12BC/DE (and 13EF) might be like a typical 737 seat - guessing 17.2" or so. I'd say 12C/D are acceptable aisle C+ seats.
Ended up in 12 EF after C+ "upgrade" on A321, and fully agree, avoid at all cost! No window, and the exit door frame protrudes about 4in into to cabin at that row, resulting in E/F seats being narrow and off center to fit... 16.3 would not be surprising and fits the math. Would not have been happy if I had paid extra for these seats! Lucky that we had a short flight.
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Old Jan 4, 2020, 11:28 pm
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row 10 (DC+ bulkhead) on 737-800

I looked at the linked posts on wiki but, since those are 5+ years old, I thought I'd ask again.

Interested in paying up to get one of the bulkhead row 10 seats on 738 where DC+ is rows 10-15.
What is the status of the bulkhead now? Is it curtain, plastic board (with or without opening at the bottom?), real wall? Can you stow stuff underneath the seats of last F row?
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Old Jan 5, 2020, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by evergrn
I looked at the linked posts on wiki but, since those are 5+ years old, I thought I'd ask again.

Interested in paying up to get one of the bulkhead row 10 seats on 738 where DC+ is rows 10-15.
What is the status of the bulkhead now? Is it curtain, plastic board (with or without opening at the bottom?), real wall? Can you stow stuff underneath the seats of last F row?
Row 10 is really good for legroom (now all, don’t even recall a curtain last time I was on it) but it can be a bit awkward for storing things because there are only two slots in front of the row (one behind each F seat).

Not a problem if traveling with someone you know but a bit awkward if traveling alone and wanting the aisle seat (not an issue for me since I usually put my bag in the overhead and just take out my laptop and headphones).
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Old Jan 5, 2020, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Row 10 is really good for legroom (now all, don’t even recall a curtain last time I was on it) but it can be a bit awkward for storing things because there are only two slots in front of the row (one behind each F seat).

Not a problem if traveling with someone you know but a bit awkward if traveling alone and wanting the aisle seat (not an issue for me since I usually put my bag in the overhead and just take out my laptop and headphones).
Okay I see.
I'm traveling alone, I'm an aisle guy and I was going to take 10D (aisle). You're saying it's awkward being in the aisle on row 10 because the front two below-seat slots are more aligned with middle and window? Well, as long as I get more legroom than the rest of the DC+ cabin, I think I'll take it.

Reason I'm considering an aisle on row 10, as opposed to aisle on another DC+ row, is that I had a horrible experience last time I sat in a 737 DC+ aisle seat. As you may know, DL's 737 has very awkward placements for seat posts, such that there is a post almost in the middle of the legroom of the aisle seat. My neighbor in the middle seat apparently felt strongly that his leg room started from where that post was, rather than the point below the armrest between the middle & aisle seats of the row in front of ours. So I ended up being unable to stretch my legs at all, and it was effectively worse than regular economy.
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Old Jan 6, 2020, 9:10 pm
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I noticed tonight when hovering over C+ seats, it no longer says that premium snacks and alcohol are included. Has it never said this and I never noticed or has something changed, which would be most unfortunate?
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 5:46 pm
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Row 10 vs row 14

Right now we have seats 14 D E F , on the A321 on a flight from ATL to LAX. Seats 10 A B C are available, which ones are better? 14 d concerns me with the FA seat being in front of it. Thanks for any feedback!
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Old Jan 22, 2020, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by Juls515
Right now we have seats 14 D E F , on the A321 on a flight from ATL to LAX. Seats 10 A B C are available, which ones are better? 14 d concerns me with the FA seat being in front of it. Thanks for any feedback!
Personally I would take Row 10 - the bulkhead usually has a little bit more room to F than a standard row.
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Old Feb 3, 2020, 8:34 am
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Has anyone flown the new Boeing 767-400ER (764) Layout 2. I am wondering how the bulkhead for delta comfort plus is, row 30?
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Old Feb 3, 2020, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by David LaFratta
Has anyone flown the new Boeing 767-400ER (764) Layout 2. I am wondering how the bulkhead for delta comfort plus is, row 30?
I suggest reviewing this thread which discusses the configuration in detail:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...rb-status.html
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Old Feb 13, 2020, 2:32 pm
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Pillows on Transcons?

Does Delta provide pillows on the LAX-JFK route in Comfort+? I understand they might be needed to sit on in row 21 due to the hard seats.
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