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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Apr 12, 2012, 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by CALlegacy
SeatGuru mentions seats B, D, and G for AVOD boxes. That seems right unless someone has new info. Also some AVOD boxes seem to intrude partially under adjoining seats as well. I usually travel with someone and we find the paired seats in 767 and A330 to work out pretty well and EC well worth while.

/rant on/ AVOD has got to be the most useless innovation in flying. A person can do just fine with laptop, Kindle, Ipad, Ipod, even actual paper books etc. Chances of me getting much sympathy for that point of view result in - - -> /rant off/

FWIW If there is any doubt about the value of EC it is the only way sitting behind an AVOD box is even possible, let alone comfortable.

Hello fro DL 9 to ATL. The vertical entertainment boxes are at seats A, E and G. There are horizontal ones under B, D, and F.

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Old Apr 12, 2012, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by nyblonde
What do you think - any pro's or con's when choosing 21 A/B or F/G in the economy comfort section?
Pros: just good seats with plenty of space in a 763.

Cons:
  • fellow pax tend to massively intrude in your personal space because of the lav's. Some even go that far to lean on your armrest or move their bottoms right in your face when they make space for other pax to go through.
  • Every time when the lav door opens or someone is doing big business, you get an instant "whiff" of what's going on. Also, pax do not always close the doors and the smell and light may disturb you.
  • the seat is not only slightly narrow but also the seat bottom is significantly shorter compared to a normal seat. It is getting a little uncomfy in the long run.
  • it's getting fairly cold.
  • I always feel a little guilty when reclining because the row behind you is paying the price.
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Old Apr 12, 2012, 7:13 am
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On the non-PTV domestic 757 (the one that starts with 21ABC and 19DEF in coach), did they remove the closet in front of 21ABC?

Is 21ABC (what used to be the old 20ABC) still bulkhead or is it now exit row or none-of-the-above?

If 21ABC is bulkhead AND has the extra 4", that is a GREAT row for a family of three...
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 7:00 am
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777 EC Choice
31A or 34C?

Please keep in mind that I am 6'3" and 250 lbs. I can't decide between the narrower seat in row 31 with the extra legroom or being in row 35's lap if I pick the row 34 seat although a wider seat. Over 4 hour flight from HKG - NRT.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by saintsfan7777
31A or 34C?

Please keep in mind that I am 6'3" and 250 lbs. I can't decide between the narrower seat in row 31 with the extra legroom or being in row 35's lap if I pick the row 34 seat although a wider seat. Over 4 hour flight from HKG - NRT.
It really comes down to which is more important - really good legroom or seat width...only you can make that choice based on your preferences.

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Old Apr 14, 2012, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by saintsfan7777
31A or 34C?

Please keep in mind that I am 6'3" and 250 lbs. I can't decide between the narrower seat in row 31 with the extra legroom or being in row 35's lap if I pick the row 34 seat although a wider seat. Over 4 hour flight from HKG - NRT.
31D,F then A,J.
I prefer Aisle.

IME: C,G are aisle but the aisle curves from BE into the EC cabin and your extended out feet will be stepped on and run over by the service carts.

BTW Has the HKG NRT equipment been changed? It has always been the A330.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
31D,F then A,J.
I prefer Aisle.

IME: C,G are aisle but the aisle curves from BE into the EC cabin and your extended out feet will be stepped on and run over by the service carts.

BTW Has the HKG NRT equipment been changed? It has always been the A330.
DL 156 on 4/22 is listed as 777.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by saintsfan7777
DL 156 on 4/22 is listed as 777.
Good for you, 777's EC beats A330's EC .
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Good for you, 777's EC beats A330's EC .
I have not yet been on a 333 EC flight but the 2 seat side has to be better than the 3-3-3 77L in EC. The 77L will be better if the middle seat is empty.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by fredmertz
Just booked the family of 5 on 25k point JFK/LAX round trips for late August (757-200). Picked EC for us in rows 20 & 21. I noticed on the seat map that the A seat in row 19 is listed as a preferred seat, NOT an EC seat, while the B & C are listed as EC.

That seems odd, no? I avoided that row because of that, despite what seems to be some serious bulkhead extra legroom.

Any thoughts?
I'm pretty sure 19 is Ec.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by saintsfan7777
31A or 34C?

Please keep in mind that I am 6'3" and 250 lbs. I can't decide between the narrower seat in row 31 with the extra legroom or being in row 35's lap if I pick the row 34 seat although a wider seat. Over 4 hour flight from HKG - NRT.
I just sat in 31J - ATL-NRT. NRT-SIN and a return.
At 6'6" and 250 it was just fine.
The seat width reduction is tiny but the leg room is huge!
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Tomphot
I just sat in 31J - ATL-NRT. NRT-SIN and a return.
At 6'6" and 250 it was just fine.
The seat width reduction is tiny but the leg room is huge!
Thanks so much for that info!
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Old Apr 16, 2012, 12:06 pm
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Any word on the domestic 767-300's getting Economy Comfort yet? I know the 757s have it, but haven't heard about the domestic 767-300's...
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Any word on the domestic 767-300's getting Economy Comfort yet? I know the 757s have it, but haven't heard about the domestic 767-300's...
+1

Been wondering this myself. Have a 763 with avod (msp-lax sat), with y starting at row 10. Right now in the exit, but would switch up if it might have ec...
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 1:41 pm
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now on CR9s
Or, observed on at least one CR9.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ed-crj900.html
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