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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 9:37 am
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A question of height and EC
I'll be making my first TPAC flight from DTW-NRT and then home PVG-DTW. I'm 6'8 and wondering if I should spend some cash on EC or go with the exit row seating that I've already scored?

My return flight is a middle seat (777), whereas there's an EC window available.

Any thoughts from other tall flyers? Is the EC 50% more recline noticeable and worth it?
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 9:44 am
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There have been plenty of threads on Economy Comfort seating. Here's a good one:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...t-seating.html
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
There have been plenty of threads on Economy Comfort seating. Here's a good one:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...t-seating.html
I've read through every single thread on EC. Sadly, the majority of these people are admittedly (most, not all) small in size. I was hoping to get the attention of taller flyers, like myself, that have sat in both seats.
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by publicmsu
I've read through every single thread on EC. Sadly, the majority of these people are admittedly (most, not all) small in size. I was hoping to get the attention of taller flyers, like myself, that have sat in both seats.
The bulkhead or an exit row is probably your best bet at 6'8". In the pics I have of me on the 764, I'm 5'3" - I think at 6'8" it would be a tight fit in a regular EC seat.
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 11:32 am
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I'm 6'7" and for a MCO-DTW-LHR-ATL-MCO trip decided to purchase EC. What a mistake. Was in row 18 on a 767 for both TATL legs. The extra two inches of legroom that I got was completely offset by the additional recline of the seat in front of me. Fortunately, EC wasn't full in either direction, so I got to move to the EC bulkhead row. Still not great, and definitely not as good as the exit row seats would have been.
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 11:42 am
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There is also the problem of the AVOD boxes under certain seats. When those boxes are present, foot room under the seat in front of you is practically non-existent and EC is not much of a compensation for it if you are tall.* Note the AVOD can occupy all of one seat in economy and about 1/3 of the adjoining seat. The bulkhead seat will not have that problem and exit rows can have enough leg room to compensate.

If you are short EC, can make all the difference, but there is still the problem that many personal items are simply not able to fit under these seats.
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 1:36 pm
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I'm not tall, but my knees sit right up against normal Y seats, and EC is only slightly better. I prefer the exit row for unlimited leg room UNLESS you can get 31C/G on the 777 which is a bulkhead but the wall doesn't extend all the way in front of you. Great seats.
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 3:01 pm
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Exit rows become too cold on long flights(especially when traveling with a spouse) and the seat is narrower with a harder cushion. If given the choice, I would choose EC. I'm 6'6 but I'm also 245lbs, so on long flights I'll avoid the exit row. Bulkhead's on the 763 are also a problem, as I can't stretch out my legs.

My order of choice in international Y:

1. EC window
2. EC aisle
3. Y window
4. Exit window
5. Y aisle
6. Exit aisle
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 10:02 pm
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Flew a MD90 with EC from MSP-BWI last week. The new slimline seats may be where they are getting the extra space. Nice that the seat bottom slides forward as one reclines so the seatback reclines not as much into the space of the person behind you.
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Old Mar 18, 2012, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by dcline414
Just flew ATL-MDW on an A319... Nothing indicated EC was available when I booked the flight or when I changed my seat to the bulkhead during check-in, but it was already reconfigured with rows 1-3 for FC and rows 4-6 for EC (red row numbers on the overhead bins rather than blue everywhere else).
just moved to row 4 at checkin on an A319 flight tomorrow.. no idea if the plane will be EC equipped, obviously, but thanks for letting us know that row 4 still exists..

just curious -- where did the extra room come from? did they reduce bulkhead room? put in slim bulkheads in F? tighten row 9? lose 8A/F? is the exit row still row 9?

(i'd be curious about this on all types -- what seats do we need to avoid during the reconfiguration phase?)
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Originally Posted by Seat1A
just moved to row 4 at checkin on an A319 flight tomorrow.. no idea if the plane will be EC equipped, obviously, but thanks for letting us know that row 4 still exists..

just curious -- where did the extra room come from? did they reduce bulkhead room? put in slim bulkheads in F? tighten row 9? lose 8A/F? is the exit row still row 9?

(i'd be curious about this on all types -- what seats do we need to avoid during the reconfiguration phase?)
I believe that if you're on row 4, and not in FC, then it's an EC equipped plane. I think the non-EC planes still have a 16 seat FC, where as the EC equipped only have 12 seat FC.

Experts, is that correct? I was on a A319 last month with EC equipped. Dynamite leg room (I was in row 6 I think).
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Old Mar 18, 2012, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by DavidAL
I believe that if you're on row 4, and not in FC, then it's an EC equipped plane. I think the non-EC planes still have a 16 seat FC, where as the EC equipped only have 12 seat FC.
i think you're thinking of the A320 -- that plane is losing a row of first in the EC conversion. the A319's have had three rows of F for some time now...
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Old Mar 18, 2012, 2:40 pm
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Just flew my first TATL leg in EC, a 763, row 17. I am 6'4", and normally fly BE using SWU but decided to save a few $$ on this trip. I was quite comfortable even on a very full flight with every EC seat taken. I was able to stretch out just fine even with the person in front reclined, and was able to sleep a few hours. I would have gotten a little better leg room on an exit row, but that would have been more than offset by the narrower and harder seat and the poorer recline. I would take EC over an exit row.
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Old Mar 25, 2012, 12:43 am
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Domestic Economy Comfort
I was on an A320 yesterday and noticed that the first 3 rows of economy were marked economy comfort in red up by the storage bins. I could not tell any appreciable difference in legroom. Has Delta actually rolled out economy comfort on domestic routes or are they just in the process of getting planes ready for it?
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Old Mar 25, 2012, 12:53 am
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They only officially have ec on the transcontinental flights (jfk-sfo/lax). They're updating their aircraft, so some already actually have ec, just not officially yet. It'll be announced officially in all ac in the spring sometime, I think
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