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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by trek87
Originally Posted by dcline414
Just flew ATL-MDW on an A319... Nothing indicated EC was available when I booked the flight or when I changed my seat to the bulkhead during check-in, but it was already reconfigured with rows 1-3 for FC and rows 4-6 for EC (red row numbers on the overhead bins rather than blue everywhere else).

Perhaps the best part of the EC rollout on the Airbuses is that no one had to double over when boarding to see those old dumbly positioned row numbers!
Was EC available on both sides? I've seen EC only on the port side of the aircraft on my TATL 757s, and I'm curious as to how the domestic EC rollout depends on the metal.
Yes, both sides... total of 18 EC seats and 12 FC seats.

The EC to economy ratio seems surprisingly low to me. I recall United's economy cabins consisting of roughly 30% economy plus. There were 55 elites who didn't clear for an upgrade this morning, so obviously FC+EC are are still not able to accommodate more than half of the medallions (even if no premium seats had been sold).
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by dcline414
Just flew ATL-MDW on an A319... Nothing indicated EC was available when I booked the flight or when I changed my seat to the bulkhead during check-in, but it was already reconfigured with rows 1-3 for FC and rows 4-6 for EC (red row numbers on the overhead bins rather than blue everywhere else).

Perhaps the best part of the EC rollout on the Airbuses is that no one had to double over when boarding to see those old dumbly positioned row numbers!
Very interesting... so, I guess the advice going forward (since Delta doesn't indicate Economy Comfort rows on the domestic seat charts yet) is that if you can't book an exit row (they are full OR you are traveling with a child), go for one of the first 3-4 rows of coach and cross your fingers. Yes?
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Old Feb 21, 2012, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Very interesting... so, I guess the advice going forward (since Delta doesn't indicate Economy Comfort rows on the domestic seat charts yet) is that if you can't book an exit row (they are full OR you are traveling with a child), go for one of the first 3-4 rows of coach and cross your fingers. Yes?
Essentially, yes. It was the same with int'l EC last year...we knew it would be appearing on a/c before the official rollout date.

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Old Feb 22, 2012, 12:59 am
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Originally Posted by trek87
Was EC available on both sides? I've seen EC only on the port side of the aircraft on my TATL 757s, and I'm curious as to how the domestic EC rollout depends on the metal.
Just to provide a data point - my ATL-LAX flight today had the updated 757 seating chart (no more row 18), along with the new row number labels on the first few rows on both sides of the aircraft. Although they didn't have the EC seats installed yet, the legroom seemed to be better.
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Old Feb 26, 2012, 1:50 pm
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Updated info...EC on the updated 763's is rows 17-21.
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mendel k:17446501
Originally Posted by tentseller:17397547
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Thanks, I got a flight soon on 747, have seat 22c, nice to know i'll be able to lay out and sleep
IMHO 22C or its pre-EC predecessor 21C is the worse seat you can get. Yes you do get unlimited legroom but you get trampled on due to PAX lining up/milling around the lav and getting water from the galley plus all the associated noise from there.

About 2/3 of the way between NRT and US you will know for sure that you are sitting near the lavs without even opening your eyes.

The Lav on the HJK side is roped off for BE use so 22H is a good seat is you want aisle.
Thanks i'll change it
Never got back about this, but 22h was really lousy as well. Even though they said that the lav was for be, everybody was using it, and the fa kept going by. I was constantly woken up by everybody hitting my legs. My outbound flight in 35j was much more enjoyable, limitless legroom and nobody hitting me
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mendel k
Never got back about this, but 22h was really lousy as well. Even though they said that the lav was for be, everybody was using it, and the fa kept going by. I was constantly woken up by everybody hitting my legs. My outbound flight in 35j was much more enjoyable, limitless legroom and nobody hitting me
Sorry to hear about your 22H nigthmare.

Both times when I was in 22H the Lav as roped off for BE and enforced by the FA in the galley or seated nearby.

I usually see more rope jumping post NRT to Asia segment than the US NRT US segments.
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First off, amazing FAQ, Robin. Thanks! ^

One note...tentseller's review/reply is numbered 68. At least on my computer.

Just booked EWR-SIN via ATL, DTW, and NRT (both ways!) so I'm hitting both the 747 and 777. Not flying til late October so likelihood of 747-400S is high.

Based on this FAQ and reading the 747-400 thread noted below, I selected 22K, which is for the DTW-NRT segments. I'm hoping the lav is well-policed + I truly prefer a window vs the aisle. I think one of the posts said you can still get out from the window seat...that would be great.

For the 777 segments I'm sticking with 31J which has always been my favorite, even before EC. Plenty of legroom, you can definitely get out, and a view of the wing that seems to go on forever.

I hope the AC stay what they are...I haven't flown a 747 in over 20 years (but I've flown about everything else in the Delta fleet).


Originally Posted by rwoman
747 - International:
Rows 22-26
Legroom: Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of EC on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
IFE: Currently overhead monitors, but DL plans to install AVOD.
Related Threads: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...747-400-a.html; tentseller's review of the 744 - Reply #67.

777 - International:
Rows 31-34
This a/c has winged headrests.
Legroom: Row 31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room.
IFE: These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by iamhereandthere
First off, amazing FAQ, Robin. Thanks! ^

One note...tentseller's review/reply is numbered 68. At least on my computer.

Just booked EWR-SIN via ATL, DTW, and NRT (both ways!) so I'm hitting both the 747 and 777. Not flying til late October so likelihood of 747-400S is high.

Based on this FAQ and reading the 747-400 thread noted below, I selected 22K, which is for the DTW-NRT segments. I'm hoping the lav is well-policed + I truly prefer a window vs the aisle. I think one of the posts said you can still get out from the window seat...that would be great.

For the 777 segments I'm sticking with 31J which has always been my favorite, even before EC. Plenty of legroom, you can definitely get out, and a view of the wing that seems to go on forever.

I hope the AC stay what they are...I haven't flown a 747 in over 20 years (but I've flown about everything else in the Delta fleet).
Right - due to an update of T&C in post#2 overnight (for me), referenced post #'s changed. I think I've updated them all now.

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Old Feb 28, 2012, 12:42 am
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Has anyone ever sat in 9A on a 767? I switched from 2A. I was hoping that 9A would give me a little more privacy being tucked into a corner.
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by seattletravelguy
Has anyone ever sat in 9A on a 767? I switched from 2A. I was hoping that 9A would give me a little more privacy being tucked into a corner.
Are you referring to the lay flat seats? The last window seat does tend to be more private. On the 764, the lav's are at the back of the cabin and there is traffic for that.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 3:33 pm
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I'm not even sure if this aircraft has lie-flat seats. It's a Trans-Pacific flight. So you're saying the lavs would be directly behind me, for BE or Econ? I also switched to this seat b/c from looking at a photo, it appears it's supposed to have a window next to it but b/c of the configuration it actually doesn't.
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767-400 Economy Comfort Question

Need to ask the experts.
After doing a search & reading lots, I still am unsure.
My wife and I are flying Delta 142 on 4/13 from DTW-FRA, overnight flight.
I am leaning strongly towards upgrading to Economy Comfort, on my dime. (Tickets were paid by a company contest I won)
I am inquiring if it is worth the $100 up-charge, and which seats to choose.
Would you choose 2 of the 3 seats in the middle section, or 2 seats on the side? (rows 17 & 18 are available)


Thanks!
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Old Mar 2, 2012, 1:55 pm
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This is a good place to look.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...t-seating.html

My Economy Comfort long-haul flights have given me an empty seat next to me each time - perhaps after moving - so a 3-section with an empty middle could be tempting, but an aisle-window combo would give you a little more privacy.
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I fly the 767-400's to LHR on a monthly basis and frankly have a hard time justifying the $100 charge for those seats. They claim to have a steeper recline but I haven't noticed it. As a diamond member I can select those seats at no charge but they are NOT worth the extra money. If you decide to bite the bullet and pay the premium, the best seats are 15 a, b or 15 f, g as they are bulkhead seats with plenty of legroom however beware that the video systems on those planes are ageing faster than they can fix them so an 8+ hour flight to either LHR, AMS, or CDG can be torture when your personal video system is broken!

The other problem those seats have are the seat trays -- atleast half of my flights lately have had broken seat trays so I've had to put on the crappy foam pillows under the tray so that my food/drink doesn't fall in my lap!
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