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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jan 26, 2014, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by cdubose98
I am joining the call for information on the modified A330 bulkhead seats. I currently am in 10A (A332) for a PVG-SEA flight and am curious what other people have thought of them. In a video I saw, the EC bulkhead seats looked fairly generous with regard to legroom, but sometimes looks can be deceiving.
Saw that video too and I have the same feeling as you about the generous amount of legroom. But the vid went by too fast and I'm sure that someone who sat in the seat can really tell us if lloks can be deceiving

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Old Jan 26, 2014, 5:16 pm
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747 seat 22H will take a lot of hits from the drink cart, the food cart so watch your elbow.
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 7:16 pm
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75E - Window for 22F?

Traveling with the family TATL Westbound on 75E. Seatguru notes no window for 22A, 23A and 23F but is silent on window for 22F. Seems odd, but is there a window in row 22 on the right side only? 22DEF are only remaining EC seats together and 7 year old is a big window seat fan so debating selecting other seats if we won't have a view. Thanks in advance for any insight.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by thecortex
Traveling with the family TATL Westbound on 75E. Seatguru notes no window for 22A, 23A and 23F but is silent on window for 22F. Seems odd, but is there a window in row 22 on the right side only? 22DEF are only remaining EC seats together and 7 year old is a big window seat fan so debating selecting other seats if we won't have a view. Thanks in advance for any insight.
IIRC, the missing window is just on the "A" side.

Seat Guru also agrees with my memory...

If you're worried and 35 DEF are open, I'd go with those.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:21 pm
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I've gone through (almost) all of the replies on this thread, trying to decide between EC row 19, 20 or 21 in the 767-300 (specifically, 76L). Here is what I think I know:

19AB/FG :

Potentially limited recline, although not necessarily too bad.
Standard EC legroom (35")
Slightly in front of the toilets
Full cushion thickness
Potentially misaligned window

20AB/FG:
Potentially limited recline, although not necessarily too bad.
Extra legroom due to exit row
Right next to toilets

21AB/FG:
Full recline - but you recline right into Row 22, thus reducing their space a fair bit
Extra legroom due to exit row
Right next to toilets


My partner is 6'4" and I'm trying to decide which one of these to pick (17AB/FG are sold out already, unfortunately - 6 months in advance!). I would probably go 20 over 21 because of the recline-into-22 factor.

I would like to get the extra legroom of 20 over 19 but am concerned about (a) the toilet proximity and (b) the reduced cushioning. So my questions to the EC experts are:

1. Does 19 vs 20 make any difference in terms of toilet proximity? Is 19 far enough ahead to ignore any 'business' going on in there?
2. Is the thinner cushion only on 20 A/G or for the aisle seats (B/F) too?
3. I've seen some pictures (not too definitive unfortunately) that makes it seem like the window of row 19 is in front of the seats, such that you would have to lean ahead to see out of it. Does anyone know if this is true?
4. How much extra legroom does row 20 have over regular EC? Is is noticeable enough to make a difference in comfort when the seat in front is reclined in?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 12:25 am
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Airbus A330-200

Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I'm trying to figure out how much legroom you really have in bulkhead row 10 on the Airbus A330-200. Trying to decide if that's a good seat for me. I'm not that tall, but I have very long legs that end up with my knees against the seat in front of me in regular economy
Thanks for your help.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by archrr
I've gone through (almost) all of the replies on this thread, trying to decide between EC row 19, 20 or 21 in the 767-300 (specifically, 76L). Here is what I think I know!
Did the exit row in a TA flight once and I loved it. Would do it again in heartbeat. Can't remember if it was next to the lavatory though, but tons of legroom. Seat in front didn't bother me at all. Saw lots of jealous looks on that flight. Mom didn't like exit so much though, since it got pretty cold.
Seat was just a little harder I guess, but that didn't bother me. Seat was also a little smaller because of the tray table, but I was still comfortable. And I guess the traffic will all depend on when you fly. I'd say at night time there will be less traffic . That was seat 21, second exit row.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by archrr

1. Does 19 vs 20 make any difference in terms of toilet proximity? Is 19 far enough ahead to ignore any 'business' going on in there?
19 is slightly farther ahead, it really comes down to personal preference.

Originally Posted by archrr
2. Is the thinner cushion only on 20 A/G or for the aisle seats (B/F) too?
All exit row seats have the thinner cusion.

Originally Posted by archrr
3. I've seen some pictures (not too definitive unfortunately) that makes it seem like the window of row 19 is in front of the seats, such that you would have to lean ahead to see out of it. Does anyone know if this is true?
Can't comment on the alignment of the window.

Originally Posted by archrr
4. How much extra legroom does row 20 have over regular EC? Is is noticeable enough to make a difference in comfort when the seat in front is reclined in?
Rows 20 and 21 have noticably more legroom than the other EC rows, apart from the bulkhead. Recline is better in row 21 than 20; I've never had an issue with people in row 22.


Originally Posted by sg1phileshipper
Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I'm trying to figure out how much legroom you really have in bulkhead row 10 on the Airbus A330-200. Trying to decide if that's a good seat for me. I'm not that tall, but I have very long legs that end up with my knees against the seat in front of me in regular economy
Thanks for your help.
Row 10 (when it's the first row) on the A330's has excellent leg room.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Row 10 (when it's the first row) on the A330's has excellent leg room.
Thanks rwoman, that's the answer I was hoping for. Secured row 10 between JFK and CDG, but it's already taken between CDG and SLC and that more than 7 months in advance.... Oh well, I'll keep looking and crossing my fingers
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 4:00 pm
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Need your expertise again....

Will be flying from LAX-SYD and back on a 777-200LR (not sure if you need that info or not, but here is the dilemma....

There are EC seats available, but no two are next to each other....I would rather not go on the trip at all if I would have to sit in a "standard" seat. My wife would like to sit next to me, I am assuming.

What is the likelyhood at check-in other seats next to each other will open up? Or that the gate agent will be able to get us seated togeather?

I understand there is no guarentee but what are your thoughts?

(Not trying to sound stuck-up about not wanting the vacation if I have to ride in a "standard" seat...I get extreme back pain, legs go numb, etc...I can't imagine a 15hrs flight....)
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by 084runnerltd
Need your expertise again....

Will be flying from LAX-SYD and back on a 777-200LR (not sure if you need that info or not, but here is the dilemma....

There are EC seats available, but no two are next to each other....I would rather not go on the trip at all if I would have to sit in a "standard" seat. My wife would like to sit next to me, I am assuming.

What is the likelyhood at check-in other seats next to each other will open up? Or that the gate agent will be able to get us seated togeather?

I understand there is no guarentee but what are your thoughts?

(Not trying to sound stuck-up about not wanting the vacation if I have to ride in a "standard" seat...I get extreme back pain, legs go numb, etc...I can't imagine a 15hrs flight....)
IME:

Since there is no complimentary upgrade on DL intl flights chance of EC seats opening up at the last minute is very slim.

Whatever EC seat you grab at ticketing is usually the one you will be sitting in.

SO
If you want EC seat then plan on not sitting together.
If you want to sit together then plan on not sitting in EC.

I can appreciate you position of not starting a vacation in physical pain/discomfort due to the long plane ride.
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by 084runnerltd
Need your expertise again....

Will be flying from LAX-SYD and back on a 777-200LR (not sure if you need that info or not, but here is the dilemma....

There are EC seats available, but no two are next to each other....I would rather not go on the trip at all if I would have to sit in a "standard" seat. My wife would like to sit next to me, I am assuming.

What is the likelyhood at check-in other seats next to each other will open up? Or that the gate agent will be able to get us seated togeather?

I understand there is no guarentee but what are your thoughts?

(Not trying to sound stuck-up about not wanting the vacation if I have to ride in a "standard" seat...I get extreme back pain, legs go numb, etc...I can't imagine a 15hrs flight....)
Very little chance, if any. There are only a handful of reasons that an EC might open up, and i use that word "might" with caution. The ones that come to mind would be no-shows for various reasons (illness, delay getting to the airport, accidents, delayed/canceled inbound flight of a passenger), someone in Y shelling out a lot of money (or a lot of miles, or maybe even an SWU if they were lucky enough...) to get a seat in J, or an op-up in the even that more Y passengers checked in and showed up at the gate than there are actually seats for.
Keep in mind that any of those scenarios is very very unlikely. I agree with tentseller. Either sit apart in a slightly better seat, or sit together somewhere else.

I know this is a long shot, and you probably already looked at it, but any chance there are two seats (together or not) in row 44, the exit row?
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
Very little chance, if any. There are only a handful of reasons that an EC might open up, and i use that word "might" with caution. The ones that come to mind would be no-shows for various reasons (illness, delay getting to the airport, accidents, delayed/canceled inbound flight of a passenger), someone in Y shelling out a lot of money (or a lot of miles, or maybe even an SWU if they were lucky enough...) to get a seat in J, or an op-up in the even that more Y passengers checked in and showed up at the gate than there are actually seats for.
Keep in mind that any of those scenarios is very very unlikely. I agree with tentseller. Either sit apart in a slightly better seat, or sit together somewhere else.

I know this is a long shot, and you probably already looked at it, but any chance there are two seats (together or not) in row 44, the exit row?

Exit row is full. Wife said she would rather go on vacation and not a sit togeather than not go at all. So we booked and will be sitting apart (unless we luck out)

Thanks for the info
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 5:50 pm
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Originally Posted by tentseller
IME:

Since there is no complimentary upgrade on DL intl flights chance of EC seats opening up at the last minute is very slim.

Whatever EC seat you grab at ticketing is usually the one you will be sitting in.

SO
If you want EC seat then plan on not sitting together.
If you want to sit together then plan on not sitting in EC.

I can appreciate you position of not starting a vacation in physical pain/discomfort due to the long plane ride.
Thanks!
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 9:24 pm
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Quick question - I searched but couldn't find the answer:

Can I use my DL status to secure EC seats, but credit miles to AS?
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