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howtofreetravel Jul 31, 2011 3:15 am

getting bumped on purpose?
 
First off I apologize for opening 2 threads in one day.I am flying from lga to memphis to lubbock currently in first (miles upgrade). This would be the last flight of the day. I heard chances are I would at least 400 dl dollars and a hotel for the night.what are the chances of getting such an offer? Should un do the upgrade for better chances of this happening?

avidflyer Jul 31, 2011 3:17 am


Originally Posted by flymanbeast (Post 16830603)
First off I apologize for opening 2 threads in one day.I am flying from lga to memphis to lubbock currently in first (miles upgrade). This would be the last flight of the day. I heard chances are I would at least 400 dl dollars and a hotel for the night.what are the chances of getting such an offer? Should un do the upgrade for better chances of this happening?

You COULD ( I doubt $400 as most people would bid less) but how can we tell if you don't give us the date and flight number?

howtofreetravel Jul 31, 2011 3:20 am

August 19 check lga to lbb at 4 and something(only flight from lga at the time) I would get the flight number but am on my phone. About 12 seats left in coach(that you can choose to seat at) .I think its the last flight of the day so guess less people would bid.

avidflyer Jul 31, 2011 3:25 am


Originally Posted by flymanbeast (Post 16830619)
August 19 check lga to lbb at 4 and something(only flight from lga at the time) I would get the flight number but am on my phone. About 12 seats left in coach(that you can choose to seat at) .I think its the last flight of the day so guess less people would bid.

At this point not a prayer...the flight (1473/3930) are wide open. Why do you think they will need bumps this far out?

As of right now it is 9's across the board and there is no way they would need to bump anybody...not that they would ever do that before the DOD anyway.

BTW, you realize the seat map means nothing particularly if you are not elite.

amolkold Jul 31, 2011 3:29 am

Most people pay for subscriptions to ExpertFlyer to check information on flight loads but you can also use FlightStats Travel Planning/Flight Availability to see load factors for free.

19 days out is way too early, especially for a Friday afternoon flight out of New York. You'd want to check the day before to see if you should get the airport early and volunteer your seat (if Y availability = 0).


Originally Posted by avidflyer (Post 16830628)
the seat map means nothing particularly if you are not elite.

This. I can see about 7 more seats available for medallions only. And 19 seats on the 2nd leg.

Also, I'm kind of curious as to why you used miles to upgrade to F when MEM->LBB is an all-economy CRJ :confused:

avidflyer Jul 31, 2011 3:38 am


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 16830635)
on the 2nd leg.

Also, I'm kind of curious as to why you used miles to upgrade to F when MEM->LBB is an all-economy CRJ :confused:

I let that go but I am baffled as well. LGA-MEM is under 2 hours flight time and that is a horrible use of miles. OP, how many miles did you use for this?

howtofreetravel Jul 31, 2011 3:44 am

I did it so I could check 3 bags for free and fly to college with style.lga memphis is a 3 hour flight.there is a one hour time change
.cost 12.5 k miles

avidflyer Jul 31, 2011 3:50 am


Originally Posted by flymanbeast (Post 16830671)
I did it so I could check 3 bags for free and fly to college with style.lga memphis is a 3 hour flight.there is a one hour time change
.cost 12.5 k miles

Good reason (free bags). You will NOT be traveling in style though. It is not a 3 hour flight and it has nothing to do with a time change ;) (they add about an hour for taxiing and ground operations in LGA/Mem). The actual flight time is right at 2 hours and it is on a 320 which has no video or audio. You may get a meal as it is just barley (I think) over the minimum for food.

amolkold Jul 31, 2011 3:51 am


Originally Posted by flymanbeast (Post 16830671)
I did it so I could check 3 bags for free and fly to college with style.lga memphis is a 3 hour flight.there is a one hour time change
.cost 12.5 k miles

12.5K Skypesos to save $185 in bag fees (without status)? Sounds like a good deal ^

In fact, it's exactly what I did when I moved to college a while back (although with lower bag fees, I didn't save much, but I did go to school in style thanks to SM :D)

davetravels Jul 31, 2011 5:37 am


Originally Posted by avidflyer (Post 16830683)
LGA/Mem - - - You may get a meal as it is just barley . . . .

Is this some new kind of Southern Cuisine they're experimenting with?!?! :D

avidflyer Jul 31, 2011 5:45 am


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 16830915)
Is this some new kind of Southern Cuisine they're experimenting with?!?! :D

LOL...and Hops!

howtofreetravel Jul 31, 2011 8:11 am

I got steak and spagetti cold last time...

DavidAL Jul 31, 2011 12:23 pm

On another note, it appears that my flight Tuesday from DTW to GRB (5328) is 1 person overbooked (at least the DL agent told me that, then said "Whoops, wasn't supposed to tell you that"), but I'm seeing still 4 FC seats available. So I'm assuming that there are no other Gold or higher medallions, since they probably would've already gotten bumped at 2 days out. (It's an award flight, flying with non-medallion family, so little to no chance for me to be upgraded, but maybe bumped).

Can any other people see differently than I on that, and why she's telling me there's 1 person overbooked, with 4 FC seats and 1 coach seat showing available.

Doc Savage Jul 31, 2011 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by flymanbeast (Post 16830603)
First off I apologize for opening 2 threads in one day.


Welcome to Flyertalk.

Just wondering, is a flymanbeast anything like a manbearpig?

Thomas Hudson Jul 31, 2011 1:08 pm

There has gotta be a joke about the guy who flew first class from New York City to Texas tech....

Thomas Hudson Jul 31, 2011 1:09 pm

I will also add that Bumps can never really be known for sure... WX and other cancellations can affect your chances either way as can SDCs...

DavidAL Jul 31, 2011 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 16832650)
I will also add that Bumps can never really be known for sure... WX and other cancellations can affect your chances either way as can SDCs...

I completely understand that bumps are never guaranteed, but I'm just curious why the agent "accidentally" told me the flight was overbooked by 1 person, but there's still 4 FC and 1 coach seat still showing on DL.dumb. Would there be 6 people that are booked without seat assignments?

Thomas Hudson Jul 31, 2011 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by DavidAL (Post 16832659)
I completely understand that bumps are never guaranteed, but I'm just curious why the agent "accidentally" told me the flight was overbooked by 1 person, but there's still 4 FC and 1 coach seat still showing on DL.dumb. Would there be 6 people that are booked without seat assignments?

I have seen Non Revs get on MD-88s that were overbooked by 8. Not sure how it all works... the more you understand it, the less it makes sense...

howtofreetravel Jul 31, 2011 1:17 pm

p.s i dont want to open a new thread. is there anyway i can carry on tennis rackets(3 of them) ? i know the crj is a very small plane...

mersk862 Jul 31, 2011 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 16832678)
I have seen Non Revs get on MD-88s that were overbooked by 8. Not sure how it all works... the more you understand it, the less it makes sense...

As someone who nonrevs on another airline quite a bit, I've been as low as no. 12 on the list for what was no open seats and still managed to get on the plane.

No-shows, misconnects, etc. make it a very fluid situation. I was just monitoring a flight that I was thinking of taking and it had been overbooked a good bit; however, all revenue standbys plus a decent number of nonrevs cleared.

view-with-a-room Jul 31, 2011 2:02 pm

With three checked bags you do not want to be bumped. Frankly the staff will most likely check the number of bags and determine you are not appropriate for the bump. Volunteering to bump is best if you have no checked bags.

SpinzCity Jul 31, 2011 3:58 pm

>>>>>I got steak and spagetti cold last time...

I got the same cold the last time I flew. The steak came out in one hard honk, but, for the spaghetti, they had to strain my sinuses through a colander.

SpinzCity Jul 31, 2011 4:11 pm

>>>>> Volunteering to bump is best if you have no checked bags.

I don't know about that - -I've done it many times, and the advantage is that when you finally get to your destination, you go straight to the baggage office and pick them up, and you are out of the terminal before the baggage carousel even starts cranking up (mind carefully your luggage receipts so you know where they are; I tear them off as soon as I get them, and put them in a regular spot in my wallet).

MSPDeltaDude Jul 31, 2011 5:11 pm


Originally Posted by SpinzCity (Post 16833485)
>>>>> Volunteering to bump is best if you have no checked bags.

I don't know about that - -I've done it many times, and the advantage is that when you finally get to your destination, you go straight to the baggage office and pick them up, and you are out of the terminal before the baggage carousel even starts cranking up (mind carefully your luggage receipts so you know where they are; I tear them off as soon as I get them, and put them in a regular spot in my wallet).


Been bumped many times and my bags have ALWAYS been checked...might be different if international though...

SamOF Jul 31, 2011 5:14 pm


Originally Posted by view-with-a-room (Post 16832867)
With three checked bags you do not want to be bumped. Frankly the staff will most likely check the number of bags and determine you are not appropriate for the bump. Volunteering to bump is best if you have no checked bags.

They never care domestically—they just send the bags on the original flight.

Internationally they have positive bag match, so bumping you with checked bags is a big PITA.

wsw523 Jul 31, 2011 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by Thomas Hudson (Post 16832642)
There has gotta be a joke about the guy who flew first class from New York City to Texas tech....

not a good one... !

CJKatl Jul 31, 2011 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by flymanbeast (Post 16832679)
p.s i dont want to open a new thread. is there anyway i can carry on tennis rackets(3 of them) ? i know the crj is a very small plane...

Get a duffle bag or garbage bag. Put the three racquets in the single bag and you've changed three pieces into one. As soon as you get on the plane, you can take the racquets out if you'd like.

As, pardon the pun, trashy as this sounds, I always keep a 13 gallon bag in my suitcase just in case, although I usually have a backpack or duffle bag also stashed in there. I have a coworker who keeps a Bloomingdales Big Brown Bag in her suitcase for the same reason. She thinks it's classier than my Hefty.

dewhit6959 Jul 31, 2011 11:16 pm

Please tell me that finance is not your major.
I have a novel idea for a high flying college person such as yourself. LIE !
Tell your frathole buddies that you flew first class. You wouldn't worry about such goofy things if you didn't believe the same type lies they're telling you.
I thought I was pretty snazzy with a new Craig eight track player and a new Edelbrock intake.
I can spot a newly minted upgraded flyer on the Atlanta to Charlotte 44 minute flight by how much electronics they position and set up with headphones, etc. We spend more time taxiing than flying.
tennis anyone ?

cmn.jcs Aug 1, 2011 4:49 am


Originally Posted by dewhit6959 (Post 16835085)
Please tell me that finance is not your major.
I have a novel idea for a high flying college person such as yourself. LIE !
Tell your frathole buddies that you flew first class. You wouldn't worry about such goofy things if you didn't believe the same type lies they're telling you.
I thought I was pretty snazzy with a new Craig eight track player and a new Edelbrock intake.
I can spot a newly minted upgraded flyer on the Atlanta to Charlotte 44 minute flight by how much electronics they position and set up with headphones, etc. We spend more time taxiing than flying.
tennis anyone ?

:confused:

I don't think the OP is bragging. As someone else mentioned, his use of miles to get rid of bag fees isn't a bad idea. His (or her) mention of being in first class was incidental, as his question pertains to VDBs.

Spiff Aug 1, 2011 5:51 am


Originally Posted by DavidAL (Post 16832438)
On another note, it appears that my flight Tuesday from DTW to GRB (5328) is 1 person overbooked (at least the DL agent told me that, then said "Whoops, wasn't supposed to tell you that"), but I'm seeing still 4 FC seats available. So I'm assuming that there are no other Gold or higher medallions, since they probably would've already gotten bumped at 2 days out. (It's an award flight, flying with non-medallion family, so little to no chance for me to be upgraded, but maybe bumped).

Can any other people see differently than I on that, and why she's telling me there's 1 person overbooked, with 4 FC seats and 1 coach seat showing available.

You're almost never going to get bumped until right before the flight leaves, much less before the day of departure.

expertflyer.com has a trial if you don't want to subscribe right away. The seat map all by itself is a poor indicator of the flight's capacity. The agent is more reliable.

howtofreetravel Aug 1, 2011 12:34 pm

I would put my rackets in the tennis bag.Now in all flights it has been ok but i know the cj is a very very small plane.I could not fit a small bag in it before.so how would i fit a tennis bag in it?

monsrt Aug 1, 2011 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 16830915)
Is this some new kind of Southern Cuisine they're experimenting with?!?! :D

Makings of a DL branded drink :p

howtofreetravel Aug 14, 2011 2:34 am

can anyone check for me by how much economy is over booked? You cant buy economy tickets for the flight anymore.What are my chances now? in case of a bump would i get a hotel? (last flight of the day)

runfit Aug 14, 2011 3:33 am

4 seats left on the first flight, 7 left on the second and I am still able to pull up seats for sale on Delta.

First is actually full, but there are still seats for sale in economy.

howtofreetravel Aug 17, 2011 9:31 pm

Are we both looking on the same flight? 1473

DaddyRabbit Aug 18, 2011 7:42 am

Lubbock
 
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