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miamiflyer8 Aug 20, 2019 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by ryw (Post 31438399)
How often does FCM come out to be cheaper than C+? I have an upcoming SEA-YYC flight with the offer of $44 to first (and $78.48 to C+). I'm not sure it'll be worth the $44 to me on a relatively short flight (plus I think the SEA skyclub doesn't allow access based on flying in F on a Canadian itinerary anymore). I'm tempted to use miles to pay for it though...

Never seen it myself. F has always been more expensive.

Regarding the SkyClub, I don't see anything on the site restricting Canadian F itineraries for SEA.

AANYC1981 Aug 20, 2019 10:11 pm

I overheard recently in the DCA SkyClub a lady bragging about how she bought FC outright since the difference covered her checked luggage fees

ryw Aug 20, 2019 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by miamiflyer8 (Post 31438416)
Never seen it myself. F has always been more expensive.

Regarding the SkyClub, I don't see anything on the site restricting Canadian F itineraries for SEA.

I was certainly surprised to see it myself!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...37d06750db.png

Regarding the lounge access, there was a US-CAD skyclub thread (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ad-flight.html) has reports of a change in the skyclub access policies last year which suggests that International D1 provides skyclub access, but International First doesn't. (People on US-CAD flights in F have had mixed success getting lounge access, often as a "one time exemption"). I wish I had made Gold this year and it wouldn't be an issue! But perhaps it's worth the upgrade just to try my luck at the skyclub.

MCO Flyer Aug 20, 2019 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by miamiflyer8 (Post 31438416)
Never seen it myself. F has always been more expensive.

Regarding the SkyClub, I don't see anything on the site restricting Canadian F itineraries for SEA.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...df770b1ab.jpeg
It’s pretty clear under the SkyClub access page on DL.com, however some posters on here keep arguing that there was no change, but others have reported that the scanners are rejecting them access which shows that paid FC to Canada doesn’t get assess anymore.

ekozie Aug 20, 2019 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by ryw (Post 31438399)
How often does FCM come out to be cheaper than C+? I have an upcoming SEA-YYC flight with the offer of $44 to first (and $78.48 to C+). I'm not sure it'll be worth the $44 to me on a relatively short flight (plus I think the SEA skyclub doesn't allow access based on flying in F on a Canadian itinerary anymore). I'm tempted to use miles to pay for it though...

Haven't seen this firsthand myself, but I have definitely noticed C+ prices creeping (skyrocketing?!?) upwards, while FCM continues to come down. On some of my regular routes C+ is now 200-250% what is used to be, making F seem that much more attractive.

jrl767 Aug 20, 2019 11:28 pm


Originally Posted by ekozie (Post 31438460)
Haven't seen this firsthand myself, but I have definitely noticed C+ prices creeping (skyrocketing?!?) upwards, while FCM continues to come down. On some of my regular routes C+ is now 200-250% what is used to be, making F seem that much more attractive.

which completely supports the DL RM objective of 70% (80%?) of F seats being purchased rather than upgraded

diburning Aug 21, 2019 3:40 am


Originally Posted by MCO Flyer (Post 31438456)



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...df770b1ab.jpeg
It’s pretty clear under the SkyClub access page on DL.com, however some posters on here keep arguing that there was no change, but others have reported that the scanners are rejecting them access which shows that paid FC to Canada doesn’t get assess anymore.

I think most of the people who said there was no change are those who have GM or above, because they can still access the club with their status + international flight.

Duke787 Aug 21, 2019 5:44 am


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 31438449)
I overheard recently in the DCA SkyClub a lady bragging about how she bought FC outright since the difference covered her checked luggage fees

I did this once back in college on AA. Was bringing two bags home (think it was winter break) and I was offered something like $50 for the upgrade and the 2x bags would've cost $60 or $65

KDCAflyer Aug 21, 2019 5:50 am

Just snagged D1 on ICN to ATL for $450. Paid $1200 RT for a PS ticket, so this was a great deal.

Interesting that it was $450 on the app, and $1400 on the desktop site.

miamiflyer8 Aug 21, 2019 7:01 am


Originally Posted by MCO Flyer (Post 31438456)
paid FC to Canada doesn’t get assess anymore.

So flights like ATL-UIO don't qualify either as it's not sold as D1?

ekozie Aug 21, 2019 7:40 am


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31438579)

which completely supports the DL RM objective of 70% (80%?) of F seats being purchased rather than upgraded

Zackly.

danielvdm Aug 21, 2019 8:10 am

Is it possible to FCM to Premium Select and later still FCM further to D1? Ever since I took two FCM deals to G on DTW-NRT and back I no longer see them for D1.

findark Aug 21, 2019 8:20 am

Seems to be garden variety for me

OAK-SLC: $99 from K
SLC-MSP: $159 from K

...of course the fare difference to I was less than $200 so that's a nope. Trying out the whole "Medallion benefits" thing instead :p

lost_perspicacity Aug 21, 2019 2:42 pm

Is this a good deal?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e8417157d4.jpg

danielvdm Aug 21, 2019 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by lost_perspicacity (Post 31441311)
Is this a good deal?

Seems like a shocking deal


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