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dlflyer00 Jan 6, 2019 8:27 pm

Anyone know how FCM works with award tickets? Booked a one-way with miles, SFO-LAX, and tempted to take it ($83), but want to be able to refund this ticket in full. Do I lose the $83 if I cancel the ticket?

xliioper Jan 6, 2019 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by dlflyer00 (Post 30620317)
Anyone know how FCM works with award tickets? Booked a one-way with miles, SFO-LAX, and tempted to take it ($83), but want to be able to refund this ticket in full. Do I lose the $83 if I cancel the ticket?

Yes. The upgrades are non-refundable and there's no exceptions based on status.

puddinhead Jan 6, 2019 9:54 pm

Delta has new way to get MQ$ with FCM
 
tI looked at my reservation today to see if seats changed or any deals on FCM. I can upgrade to FC from LAS-LAX for only $840.27. Or I can buy a fully refundable FC ticket on the same flight/date for $325.30. I wonder who thought this through?
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Worldtraveler727 Jan 7, 2019 4:19 am

The algorithm for selecting fcm seems off. The offers I am getting this year are about 200% of the original ticket price whereas they were about 20-30% of original ticket price last year. And I generally buy W fares.

Something seems off since they did the option to pay with miles for upgrades.

flyerCO Jan 7, 2019 6:01 am

I thing the issue above is that OP doesn't have a LAS-LAX fare. Rather they have an LAS-LHR fare. Which means an ineligible international segment. My guess (it's purely a guess) is that the system is being made to break the fare and upgrade the LAX-LHR fare to one that works with LAS-LAX in F or that it's having problems allocating fare between segments.

Regardless I just did an FCM few days ago on a normal one stop domestic fare and had no issue with pricing. (Both miles and cash amounts were correct) LAX-SEA-AUS. Upgraded LAX-SEA for $79. SEA-AUS was medallion upgrade, LAX-SEA wasn't going to clear as it was last minute purchase with other DM higher on list.

xliioper Jan 7, 2019 6:13 am

My offer for a DTW-MDW award flight at the end of month is unchanged -- $74.18.

hockeyinsider Jan 7, 2019 6:39 am

I was offered a buy-up into first-class on a 737 from Detroit to Atlanta for $181.68. No thanks.

FLYPWM Jan 7, 2019 7:19 am

PWM-JFK next Thursday for $187. That's about a 45 minute flight wheels up, wheels down. :(

woodenshoe101 Jan 7, 2019 7:31 am


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 30621532)
I thing the issue above is that OP doesn't have a LAS-LAX fare. Rather they have an LAS-LHR fare. Which means an ineligible international segment. My guess (it's purely a guess) is that the system is being made to break the fare and upgrade the LAX-LHR fare to one that works with LAS-LAX in F or that it's having problems allocating fare between segments.

I think you are right. Similar, my parents are booked in G/W AMS-DTW-STL in a few weeks. I booked their tickets and see their FCM offer DTW-STL which is around 500EUR (about $550) which is in line with buying a P fare (now D or I probably).

I’ve had domestic itin buy-up offers DTW-STL recently as low as $79.

hi55us Jan 7, 2019 7:51 am


Originally Posted by FLYPWM (Post 30621842)
PWM-JFK next Thursday for $187. That's about a 45 minute flight wheels up, wheels down. :(

TIL Delta Flies PWM-JFK

ATOBTTR Jan 7, 2019 8:12 am

Yea I've been seeing the same thing on a TPA-ATL-SAT return I have (I've already upgraded on the outbound which is via MSP with an RUC). $1560 FCM offer for TPA-ATL-SAT. I could go buy two new FC , round-trip tickets for $750 a piece. I'd happily buy-up on TPA-ATL-SAT for $150 (ie, move the decimal to the left one place) for the SDC flexibility but for $1500? It really makes me wonder if DL misplaced the decimal or if they have some other logic going on (either seeing if they can really get someone to buy-up for that or are purposely discouraging the buy-up to preserve F seats for other routes/tickets).

pvn Jan 7, 2019 8:15 am

this really shouldn't be its own thread, OP. There is already tons of discussion about nonsensical FCM offers in the FCM thread.

Gig103 Jan 7, 2019 9:28 am

Do FCM purchases even count for MQD?

ND76 Jan 7, 2019 10:10 am

The CES is going on in LAS; that is why this FCM offer is out of whack.

3Cforme Jan 7, 2019 10:15 am

Puddinhead's thread got RBP'd as a redundant thread. I'm going to agree as questions long-answered in the primary FCM thread are now popping up here. This will be merged in moments.

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