First Class Monetization, or FCM: The Definitive Thread
May 12, 2016, 4:50 pm
#3106
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Does anyone have an idea what kind of meal to expect in F at 5 PM? It's been years since I've been in F on that route. It's showing 1513 miles so it should be the 3-course one, right?
May 12, 2016, 5:09 pm
#3107
Join Date: May 2015
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I'm a lowly FO at the moment, so the chance of getting an upgrade is about as much as winning the lottery without buying a ticket.
Does anyone have an idea what kind of meal to expect in F at 5 PM? It's been years since I've been in F on that route. It's showing 1513 miles so it should be the 3-course one, right?
Does anyone have an idea what kind of meal to expect in F at 5 PM? It's been years since I've been in F on that route. It's showing 1513 miles so it should be the 3-course one, right?
May 12, 2016, 5:11 pm
#3108
Join Date: Feb 2008
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I'm a lowly FO at the moment, so the chance of getting an upgrade is about as much as winning the lottery without buying a ticket.
Does anyone have an idea what kind of meal to expect in F at 5 PM? It's been years since I've been in F on that route. It's showing 1513 miles so it should be the 3-course one, right?
Does anyone have an idea what kind of meal to expect in F at 5 PM? It's been years since I've been in F on that route. It's showing 1513 miles so it should be the 3-course one, right?
May 12, 2016, 5:39 pm
#3109
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MEM-MSP will be snack basket I think.
May 12, 2016, 8:03 pm
#3110
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN
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First time that I have to book DL this year. Looks like I booked it outright, $25x from MCO to IAD A fare. Managed to get a layover in MSP to grab a drink/bite with my colleague who's based there.
Almost got another $27x A fare from TPA-NYC with a MSP stop in June, but changed my mind to get back to AA. DL almost got that ticket from me too.
Almost got another $27x A fare from TPA-NYC with a MSP stop in June, but changed my mind to get back to AA. DL almost got that ticket from me too.
May 13, 2016, 8:53 am
#3111
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Put on your asbestos jockey shorts, since you will soon be flamed by the WFBF cheering section. 
To correct one misconception... they are not just selling "Diamond upgrades," they are selling upgrades to anyone with, in your case, $29 in their pocket (assuming they paid the same base fare as you did).
Someone on their first ever, and perhaps last, flight on DL can grab that upgrade for $29.
In this case DM don't mean dip.
To correct another misconception... the increment might be $290 on another route. $29 is exceptionally low, even for a single segment.
To correct one misconception... they are not just selling "Diamond upgrades," they are selling upgrades to anyone with, in your case, $29 in their pocket (assuming they paid the same base fare as you did).
Someone on their first ever, and perhaps last, flight on DL can grab that upgrade for $29.
In this case DM don't mean dip.
To correct another misconception... the increment might be $290 on another route. $29 is exceptionally low, even for a single segment.
May 13, 2016, 2:04 pm
#3112
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To me it doesn't make sense not to give elites discounts on the "buy up" offers. If a DM pays $29, DL gains $29, but if a kettle pays $29, DL is likely to only gain at most $4 if the person is checking a bag or even, depending on the route and number of bags,, DL can lose money on the bag fees.
The primary issue has to be saving face on Wall St and satisfying the 70% paid FC ego promise.
Perhaps the secondary consideration is the thought of hooking another newbie on the FC drug in order to increase future competition for FC, thus incentivizing the customers to do even more financially silly things to get there.
May 13, 2016, 2:54 pm
#3113
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Down in that price range, I have to suspect that the incremental price is a secondary or tertiary consideration to Va Ave.
The primary issue has to be saving face on Wall St and satisfying the 70% paid FC ego promise.
Perhaps the secondary consideration is the thought of hooking another newbie on the FC drug in order to increase future competition for FC, thus incentivizing the customers to do even more financially silly things to get there.
The primary issue has to be saving face on Wall St and satisfying the 70% paid FC ego promise.
Perhaps the secondary consideration is the thought of hooking another newbie on the FC drug in order to increase future competition for FC, thus incentivizing the customers to do even more financially silly things to get there.
May 13, 2016, 10:06 pm
#3114
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I am very very afraid. Would you not rather spend some Skymiles relaxing on some beach somewhere. Please!
May 16, 2016, 4:52 pm
#3115
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Havent' flow the past two months and wow a lot of changes all around. For sure most of the F cabins are 50-75% full at the EUA window for DM's. Not the case for the routes I am used to. Guess WFBF is the new norm if you want an UG. And technically then it is no longer and UG.
May 16, 2016, 6:06 pm
#3116
Join Date: Sep 2003
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LAX-BOS in July
H Fare $402.10
P Fare $541.10
OPM picking up the H fare, so I paid $139 out of pocket, which is a steal. DL F cabin prices are consistently a reasonable premium over main cabin, unlike AA/UA.
Just to compare, on the way back I am going BOS-JFK-LAX on MINT, and it was $696.10, well worth the $155 premium. I can't wait for LAX-BOS MINT nonstop in the fall. If priced around $599-$699, the DL F fare wont look so hot.
H Fare $402.10
P Fare $541.10
OPM picking up the H fare, so I paid $139 out of pocket, which is a steal. DL F cabin prices are consistently a reasonable premium over main cabin, unlike AA/UA.
Just to compare, on the way back I am going BOS-JFK-LAX on MINT, and it was $696.10, well worth the $155 premium. I can't wait for LAX-BOS MINT nonstop in the fall. If priced around $599-$699, the DL F fare wont look so hot.
Last edited by anc-ord772; May 16, 2016 at 6:24 pm
May 16, 2016, 6:47 pm
#3120
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