First Class Monetization, or FCM: The Definitive Thread
#2836
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM. 1MM
Posts: 2,045
I paid $700 for flight home for Christmas on popular travel days. Upgrade offer has been as low as $335 but now it's sitting at $881 for departure on the 22nd.
No thank you for all. I'm in C+ going NYC-ATL-CHA rt. I'll be just fine with a couple drinks and some peanuts. Thanks delta.
No thank you for all. I'm in C+ going NYC-ATL-CHA rt. I'll be just fine with a couple drinks and some peanuts. Thanks delta.
#2837
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New York, New York
Programs: DL PM, HH Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 37
Talk About FCM
Flying LGA to MCO, out on 12-24, back on 12-28.
DL's been offering me the FCM upgrade for two of us at $201 each for the round trip since I booked a month ago. This morning the price jumped to $993 each. There are still 7 seats open up front on the trip down and 8 on the trip back.
Nice FCM prices if DL can get it.
DL's been offering me the FCM upgrade for two of us at $201 each for the round trip since I booked a month ago. This morning the price jumped to $993 each. There are still 7 seats open up front on the trip down and 8 on the trip back.
Nice FCM prices if DL can get it.
#2838
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 937
Now this is an FCM!!
Flying to MCO for a conference in Feb. Will be flying EWR->MSP->MCO which I know is out of the way but i want to travel with an MSP based colleague so we can prep for the conference on the flight down and regroup on the way back.
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
#2839
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MCO
Programs: DL-DM/1MM, HILTON-DIA, .HYATT-DIA/GLOB , IHG-PLT,HERTZ 5*, NATIONAL ES
Posts: 8,691
Flying to MCO for a conference in Feb. Will be flying EWR->MSP->MCO which I know is out of the way but i want to travel with an MSP based colleague so we can prep for the conference on the flight down and regroup on the way back.
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
#2840
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MCO
Programs: Delta - PM, HH - Gold, SPG - Gold, Marriott - Plat
Posts: 1,060
Flying to MCO for a conference in Feb. Will be flying EWR->MSP->MCO which I know is out of the way but i want to travel with an MSP based colleague so we can prep for the conference on the flight down and regroup on the way back.
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
Last week flew MCO-JFK-LAS and since I was on award ticket I didn't get offer to upgrade. However, got my free upgrade to JFK.
#2841
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,409
Flying to MCO for a conference in Feb. Will be flying EWR->MSP->MCO which I know is out of the way but i want to travel with an MSP based colleague so we can prep for the conference on the flight down and regroup on the way back.
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
We booked our economy tixx and took exit rows next to each other. He's offered a chance to UG for $88 r/t, i'm giving the chance to UG for $94 r/t. I'm guessing anything to MCO is an easy UG but the MQM alone is worth it. $23.50 per leg, each 2 hours plus is a no brainer.
Thanks Delta
If you go for it, try to make both changes simultaneously (phone call as both are logged into FF accounts on delta.dumb) just in case there's only one seat at such prices.
#2842
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Francisco
Programs: DL DM, 1MM AA PLT 2MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, and...Smiles Diamante
Posts: 2,783
I paid for Comfort+ and all I'm seeing at the top of my reservation online and in the app is "Upgrade to Delta Comfort+." There's no mention of a First option.
Is this a glitch? Or perhaps what happens when FCM is not being offered? Or something else?
-Curious in Coach
Is this a glitch? Or perhaps what happens when FCM is not being offered? Or something else?
-Curious in Coach
#2843
I paid for Comfort+ and all I'm seeing at the top of my reservation online and in the app is "Upgrade to Delta Comfort+." There's no mention of a First option.
Is this a glitch? Or perhaps what happens when FCM is not being offered? Or something else?
-Curious in Coach
Is this a glitch? Or perhaps what happens when FCM is not being offered? Or something else?
-Curious in Coach
#2844
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MCO
Programs: Delta - PM, HH - Gold, SPG - Gold, Marriott - Plat
Posts: 1,060
I paid for Comfort+ and all I'm seeing at the top of my reservation online and in the app is "Upgrade to Delta Comfort+." There's no mention of a First option.
Is this a glitch? Or perhaps what happens when FCM is not being offered? Or something else?
-Curious in Coach
Is this a glitch? Or perhaps what happens when FCM is not being offered? Or something else?
-Curious in Coach
#2845
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ATL Lost Luggage
Programs: Kettle with Kryptonium Medallion Tags
Posts: 10,306
Kettle's Offer: FCM == price of C+ upgrade and 1 checked bag
My spouse, a SM member without status, has an upcoming ATL to TUS roundtrip. Her employer booked her coach seats.
We logged into delta.dumb to attach her SM # to the reservation and to pick seats. Both seatmaps only offered center seats in the last two rows (between the engines). I then checked her C+ and FCM prices. The FCM offer was the exact amount as the C+ upgrade plus $25, the cost of her first checked bag.
And that's how there were two fewer FC seats for elite upgrades...
We logged into delta.dumb to attach her SM # to the reservation and to pick seats. Both seatmaps only offered center seats in the last two rows (between the engines). I then checked her C+ and FCM prices. The FCM offer was the exact amount as the C+ upgrade plus $25, the cost of her first checked bag.
And that's how there were two fewer FC seats for elite upgrades...
#2846
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
Be careful. Often DL presents the prices as per direction or even per segment. Also, for prices this low, you don't what to use pay with miles because DL tends too round up (not in your favor).
If you go for it, try to make both changes simultaneously (phone call as both are logged into FF accounts on delta.dumb) just in case there's only one seat at such prices.
If you go for it, try to make both changes simultaneously (phone call as both are logged into FF accounts on delta.dumb) just in case there's only one seat at such prices.
#2847
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,926
ETA: it wouldn't surprise me if they were doing various sorts of A/B testing to see what works better in general or with specific people's buying patterns, big data the .... out of it.
#2848
Join Date: May 2015
Location: YYJ
Programs: AC100,DLSilver,ALMVP,Fairmont Platinum
Posts: 48
The last 6mo I've been purchasing mostly FC tickets for short money over the economy. I'm also in a push for gold so I need the extra miles.
However I do keep thinking to my self if I'm buying the FC seat bc upgrades are so hard to come by, then why do I even care about my medallion status?
However I do keep thinking to my self if I'm buying the FC seat bc upgrades are so hard to come by, then why do I even care about my medallion status?
#2850
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: AS MVPG, SPG Gold, ICH P Club Plat, Hertz#1 5Star, Marriott Gold
Posts: 227
I usually buy the cheapest Y fare ..wait for a FCM offer I want to grab ..and if either I don't find one by 21 days out ..or I see one of the "Only x number of seats at this fare" message for the A or P fare ..I'll grab the offer at this point. I have a MCO-ANC one way in February (conference in Orlando) ..and all of a sudden the FCM offer price jumped up 50 pct higher than the actual current A fare! I've never seen that before. Called in, and was able to upfare the ticket into the A price without a change fee. It sounds like I'm not the only one this happened to. I wonder if they are trying to incorporate a past history algorithm. Next time I'm traveling with the GF ..who doesn't have much history on DL, I'll book us on separate PNRs and see if we get different offers.
While I'm at it ...Any new thoughts on the DL-AS partnership. They seem to keep getting further apart ..but the (what seems to me to be crazy) mileage earning anomaly continues. If you buy an A or a P fare on DL ..credit it to AS ..you get 100%(A), 75%(P), bonus over actually flight mileage, as opposed to spend based on a 675 dollar ticket crediting to DL. Works great for me as an AS MVPG ..but that can't go on ..can it?
While I'm at it ...Any new thoughts on the DL-AS partnership. They seem to keep getting further apart ..but the (what seems to me to be crazy) mileage earning anomaly continues. If you buy an A or a P fare on DL ..credit it to AS ..you get 100%(A), 75%(P), bonus over actually flight mileage, as opposed to spend based on a 675 dollar ticket crediting to DL. Works great for me as an AS MVPG ..but that can't go on ..can it?