First Class Monetization, or FCM: The Definitive Thread
Apr 14, 2015, 12:48 pm
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I fail to see the fraud in buying an FCM ticket (or upfaring to one). Perhaps you believe DL is committing fraud by advertising unlimited medallion upgrades and then severely limiting them by FCM?
Apr 14, 2015, 1:11 pm
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Yes. You can also upgrade individual segments* in advance by calling in.
*Assuming a nonstop. For connecting itineraries, you're basically up-faring so would need to upgrade that particular fare component. E.g., MDW-ATL-MCO, if ticketed on a CHI-ORL fare, you'd need to upgrade both legs at once).
*Assuming a nonstop. For connecting itineraries, you're basically up-faring so would need to upgrade that particular fare component. E.g., MDW-ATL-MCO, if ticketed on a CHI-ORL fare, you'd need to upgrade both legs at once).
Apr 14, 2015, 3:13 pm
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Are they the same class? (Not that the answer to that would be definitive, you'd have to phone and ask to know for sure.)
Apr 14, 2015, 3:29 pm
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I was commenting about the poster upthread that wanted to book multiple F tickets and refund them within 24 hours to leave an empty F cabin as punishment to DL. That is fraud.
I know its fun to jump the guy that doesn't participate in the whole "F the airlines" bandwagon, but I don't think any could defend that.
Apr 14, 2015, 4:46 pm
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Apr 15, 2015, 5:30 am
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Remarkable.
FTF
Apr 15, 2015, 9:16 am
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Seth...you need to read a little closer, my friend.
I was commenting about the poster upthread that wanted to book multiple F tickets and refund them within 24 hours to leave an empty F cabin as punishment to DL. That is fraud.
I know its fun to jump the guy that doesn't participate in the whole "F the airlines" bandwagon, but I don't think any could defend that.
I was commenting about the poster upthread that wanted to book multiple F tickets and refund them within 24 hours to leave an empty F cabin as punishment to DL. That is fraud.
I know its fun to jump the guy that doesn't participate in the whole "F the airlines" bandwagon, but I don't think any could defend that.
Apr 15, 2015, 9:50 am
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I agree that buying tickets with no intent to use them is fraud. (That doesn't include things like buying multiple tickets with the intent to use one of them but not knowing yet which one will be feasible or required, or buying a new ticket that requires abandoning (part of?) an old one.)
I've certainly thrown away my fair share of tickets that I absolutely intended to use when I bought them, but later realized that I couldn't/wouldn't need them. Part of why I almost always buy two one-ways instead of RT tickets.
Apr 16, 2015, 6:19 pm
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I had a free skybonus ticket about to expire and decided to use it on DTW/YYZ since airfare is so absurd on this route and I wouldn't be able to get away from the office early enough to cross the border to take Porter or Via from Windsor. Tickets are not eligible for upgrade.
First for me, it offered me the opportunity to buy up to first class for $179. I'm in 5b (aisle bulkhead c+ seat in an RJ with no bulkhead wall) so it was no brainer declining that. I can't believe anyone would bite for an hour flight. I can buy a lot of drinks and nice meals the entire weekend for that. Seeing it's a SB free ticket no bonus MQM's either.
I've never been offered a buyup to first before on a SB free ticket
First for me, it offered me the opportunity to buy up to first class for $179. I'm in 5b (aisle bulkhead c+ seat in an RJ with no bulkhead wall) so it was no brainer declining that. I can't believe anyone would bite for an hour flight. I can buy a lot of drinks and nice meals the entire weekend for that. Seeing it's a SB free ticket no bonus MQM's either.
I've never been offered a buyup to first before on a SB free ticket
Apr 16, 2015, 8:56 pm
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FCM variant
Just booked two award tickets three weeks out.
No 25 K awards, of course, but FC award tickets were equal to or cheaper than coach, depending upon itinerary selected.
I wonder if award tickets count towards the goal of 70 to 80% "paid" FC seats?
No 25 K awards, of course, but FC award tickets were equal to or cheaper than coach, depending upon itinerary selected.
I wonder if award tickets count towards the goal of 70 to 80% "paid" FC seats?
Apr 16, 2015, 8:58 pm
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First time offer today for PVD-ATL for $109. Turned it down since I had a good C+ seat and I cared more about the ATL-PHX flight although that one wasn't offered. In the end, I missed that flight anyway and bought first class outright for an extra $80 for a ATL-PHX tomorrow am. Glad I didn't bite on the first offer.
Apr 16, 2015, 9:56 pm
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A friend of mine (no status who has a lot more miles through Am Ex spending than flying) booked DTW/LAX yesterday on miles and it was only 5,000 more miles for first than coach. Helps to explain why sometimes diamonds aren't clearing that route using an RU
Apr 19, 2015, 8:04 pm
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lga to dfw in 13 days. I paid $294.00 for the non stop flights. I can upgrade for $233.00 RT. It gives me an extra 1400 MQM. Total price paid if I UG my ticket will be $527.00. If I do a dummy booking and want to buy an F ticket with the same flights, the price comes to $635.00. This one is a tough decision. $233.00 for the extra 1400 MQM isn't great but it also isn't bad.
Apr 19, 2015, 9:33 pm
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lga to dfw in 13 days. I paid $294.00 for the non stop flights. I can upgrade for $233.00 RT. It gives me an extra 1400 MQM. Total price paid if I UG my ticket will be $527.00. If I do a dummy booking and want to buy an F ticket with the same flights, the price comes to $635.00. This one is a tough decision. $233.00 for the extra 1400 MQM isn't great but it also isn't bad.