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Old Jun 1, 2011, 12:03 pm
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What is the fate of Deltas 747?

I read in another thread that Delta will be returning 747's as they come off of lease. It don't think they have any new long haul orders aside from the 787 that were deferred.

How long are the leases on their existing 747 fleet? Do they have some that are parked or does this mean there is going to be a long haul capacity reduction?
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 12:10 pm
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Possibly it means they will start using more fuel-efficient planes on long-haul routes, like the 777 and 787. Which is a good thing.

2020 sounds like a long time from now but it's only 8.5 years away.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 12:11 pm
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 12:23 pm
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Not all of the 747-400s are leased. Some could also come out of service temporarily when heavy maintenance checks are due.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by HongKonger
Possibly it means they will start using more fuel-efficient planes on long-haul routes, like the 777 and 787. Which is a good thing.

2020 sounds like a long time from now but it's only 8.5 years away.
+1
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by sxf24
Not all of the 747-400s are leased. Some could also come out of service temporarily when heavy maintenance checks are due.
Not all of the 744s are leased, but 12 of 16 are.

http://www.delta.com/about_delta/cor...ircraft_fleet/

There's no value in discussion of 744 fleet plans without a forecast of oil prices. Anyone highly skilled in that isn't wasting his time on FT.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 2:53 pm
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Ship 6314 is currently en route to Marana from Detroit. It will be stored for about a year. 6311 and 6312 are set to be returned to their lessors in August and November 2012.

Currently the plan is to have 15 744's in rotations. Fleet will go down to 14 after 2012.

Also...the first DC-9-50 goes to Arizona tomorrow.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 2:58 pm
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Also...the first DC-9-50 goes to Arizona tomorrow.
Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!! ^
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 3:10 pm
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Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!! ^
I know you will enjoy that ride in a 700 or 900 more.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by javabytes
Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!! ^
That is not reason for celebration, it is a sad day.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by mtkeller
That is not reason for celebration, it is a sad day.
Originally Posted by tvnwz
I know you will enjoy that ride in a 700 or 900 more.
I will. The 900's are great, especially 1A. The DC-9's are ratty, disgusting, spiteful things. They're older than half the people flying on them. I know they are built like bricks and still have usable life remaining, but that doesn't mean DL shouldn't send them to the desert where they belong.
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Originally Posted by N522US
Ship 6314 is currently en route to Marana from Detroit. It will be stored for about a year. 6311 and 6312 are set to be returned to their lessors in August and November 2012.

Currently the plan is to have 15 744's in rotations. Fleet will go down to 14 after 2012.

Also...the first DC-9-50 goes to Arizona tomorrow.
I hope 6311 or 6312 was one of the 744's I flew on to Tokyo a few weeks ago. I remember looking at it from the window at LAX prior to boarding and it looked like someone took a hammer to it. It had a bunch of very large dents from the bottom of the pilots windows to the bottom of the plane. Wasn't the best thing to see before boarding.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by javabytes
Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!! ^
Originally Posted by tvnwz
I know you will enjoy that ride in a 700 or 900 more.
We're OT, but getting rid of any airplane with an FC cabin is . CR7s and CR9s are fine, but CR1s and CR2s (which have been used as subs on some DC-9 routes in the past) just plane suck.
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Old Jun 1, 2011, 5:12 pm
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I hope I'm not the only one who will be sad to see the 744s go. Especially with the new interior updates that should be rolling out in 2012.

It's still the queen of the sky in my book.
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Originally Posted by COnned
I hope I'm not the only one who will be sad to see the 744s go. Especially with the new interior updates that should be rolling out in 2012.

It's still the queen of the sky in my book.
+1

747 is still the best ride in the fleet -- if you are riding up above in WBC (sorry, "BE"), that is.
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