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amps Jan 8, 2011 8:04 pm

Upgrade Priority Question
 
Can somebody please confirm that I am reading this correctly? I did a search on this but there isn't much discussion. Does the below chart mean that a Diamond on an award ticket has a higher priority than a Platinum on a paid ticket?

Priority Medallion Level Clearance Priority
1. All Medallions on Y Class Fares At time of ticketing by Medallion Tier
2. Diamond Medallion 5 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
3. Platinum Medallion 5 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
4. Gold Medallion 3 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H,Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
5. Silver Medallion 1 calendar day in advance for B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2
6. Companions Within 24 hours of departure for B, M, H, Q, K, L, U,

Orange County Commuter Jan 8, 2011 8:07 pm

Stangely enough yes... (and I think it's bizarre and I am a Diamond)

javabytes Jan 8, 2011 8:11 pm

Yes. On award tickets, you clear with your elite tier after all revenue tickets (as long as you are Gold or higher. Silvers don't get award upgrades.). So a Diamond on an award ticket clears before a Platinum on a revenue ticket. The exception is full Y fares, which will clear before any award tickets.

GBadger Jan 8, 2011 9:40 pm

"Pay with Miles" tickets are not eligible for upgrade I believe. That may have changed when award upgrades went into effect, but I'm not sure.

avidflyer Jan 8, 2011 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by amps (Post 15615378)
Can somebody please confirm that I am reading this correctly? I did a search on this but there isn't much discussion. Does the below chart mean that a Diamond on an award ticket has a higher priority than a Platinum on a paid ticket?

Priority Medallion Level Clearance Priority
1. All Medallions on Y Class Fares At time of ticketing by Medallion Tier
2. Diamond Medallion 5 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
3. Platinum Medallion 5 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
4. Gold Medallion 3 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H,Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
5. Silver Medallion 1 calendar day in advance for B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2
6. Companions Within 24 hours of departure for B, M, H, Q, K, L, U,


This works great. N is an award ticket:

http://cwsi.net/mupc.aspx

turnpike17 Jan 8, 2011 10:29 pm

I believe this is very fair.... you have your status and obviously you are going to use miles for award tickets and your elite benefits should not stop when you are using miles for a ticket. I am a platinum and have no problem with a diamond on an award ticket clearing before me.... they have higher status then me and just because they're not paying for that ticket, they deserved to be upgraded before me.

runfit Jan 8, 2011 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by GBadger (Post 15615906)
"Pay with Miles" tickets are not eligible for upgrade I believe. That may have changed when award upgrades went into effect, but I'm not sure.

They are eligible along with the award upgrades now. I would assume they are in the same upgrade batch as award?

turnpike17 Jan 8, 2011 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by runfit (Post 15616164)
They are eligible along with the award upgrades now. I would assume they are in the same upgrade batch as award?

Correct, however I dont know if there is a priority between award tickets and pay with miles, maybe just whichever was purchased first, assuming same elite status.

cottonpatch Jan 9, 2011 5:43 am


Originally Posted by turnpike17 (Post 15616203)
Correct, however I dont know if there is a priority between award tickets and pay with miles, maybe just whichever was purchased first, assuming same elite status.

As I read it, there is a priority of award tickets over the pay with miles. The benefit is not available for Silver. It's only available for Diamond, Platinum and Gold.

raistlin Jan 9, 2011 6:36 am

Anybody know if and where elites from other ST carriers fit into this?

DaDaDan Jan 9, 2011 6:41 am

There are no upgrades for ST elites. At least not a regular program. They could get an op-up if there are no DL elites available.

DaDaDan Jan 9, 2011 6:44 am

Also, I agree that diamonds on awards should clear above plats. Hotel status works the same way. You get your elite benefits, including room upgrades, even on award stays.

raistlin Jan 9, 2011 6:50 am


Originally Posted by DaDaDan (Post 15617485)
There are no upgrades for ST elites. At least not a regular program. They could get an op-up if there are no DL elites available.

This was also my understanding, but I recall reading here on flyertalk a lengthy thread on Flying Blue elites being added to the upgrade list... maybe I am wrong...

(not that it would matter to me, I'm an AZ customer)

DaDaDan Jan 9, 2011 7:03 am


Originally Posted by raistlin (Post 15617530)
This was also my understanding, but I recall reading here on flyertalk a lengthy thread on Flying Blue elites being added to the upgrade list... maybe I am wrong...

(not that it would matter to me, I'm an AZ customer)

Could it be for mileage upgrades? Adding them to domestic comp upgrades would be news to me. And I'd want reciprocal privledges too...though AF short haul upgrades are pretty useless.

raistlin Jan 9, 2011 7:08 am


Originally Posted by DaDaDan (Post 15617572)
Could it be for mileage upgrades? Adding them to domestic comp upgrades would be news to me. And I'd want reciprocal privledges too...though AF short haul upgrades are pretty useless.

I don't recall the thread well enough and can't find it right now.

BTW: there's no complimentary upgrades on any EU airlines, and as you point out short-haul upgrades in Europe aren't really worth the trouble, usually.

cottonpatch Jan 9, 2011 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by DaDaDan (Post 15617499)
Also, I agree that diamonds on awards should clear above plats. Hotel status works the same way. You get your elite benefits, including room upgrades, even on award stays.

I agree with this as well and I'm not even a platinum

sts603 Jan 14, 2011 8:45 am

What is the priority within each status level if two travelers have the same fare class?

mersk862 Jan 14, 2011 8:47 am


Originally Posted by sts603 (Post 15657194)
What is the priority within each status level if two travelers have the same fare class?

First is if one has the Delta AmEx Reserve card.

Second is time of upgrade request (which tends to be when you were ticketed to be on that flight).

DaddyRabbit Jan 14, 2011 8:56 am

DL Upgrades
 

Originally Posted by amps (Post 15615378)
Can somebody please confirm that I am reading this correctly? I did a search on this but there isn't much discussion. Does the below chart mean that a Diamond on an award ticket has a higher priority than a Platinum on a paid ticket?

Priority Medallion Level Clearance Priority
1. All Medallions on Y Class Fares At time of ticketing by Medallion Tier
2. Diamond Medallion 5 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
3. Platinum Medallion 5 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
4. Gold Medallion 3 calendar days in advance for revenue B, M, H,Q, K, L, U, T class fares2 followed by Award Tickets and Pay with Miles
5. Silver Medallion 1 calendar day in advance for B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T class fares2
6. Companions Within 24 hours of departure for B, M, H, Q, K, L, U,

Works just fine for me + + + ^

iamhereandthere Jan 14, 2011 10:36 am


Originally Posted by GBadger (Post 15615906)
"Pay with Miles" tickets are not eligible for upgrade I believe. That may have changed when award upgrades went into effect, but I'm not sure.

Pay with Miles tickets are eligible for upgrades and follow the same rules/restrictions as award tickets.

I pay with miles all the time when I'm flying ~1500 or less rt. I'd rather spend the cash where where I can earn 2x-3x the MQMs for the equivalent $.

I just flip back and forth between award and PWM to use the least amount of SM.


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