AMEX Delta Companion certificate Consolidated Thread
Jun 8, 2019, 11:05 pm
#2506
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: HNL
Programs: DL PM/1MM, BW DE (lifetime), HH DE, Marriott PE (lifetime), National Emerald Executive
Posts: 7,205
Other than Delta purposely blocking the nonstop ORD-ICN, why isn’t it showing? Don’t tell me married segment logic because I’ve successfully had a highly skilled Delta agent fight their system to build a KE award segment by segment. Even they were frustrated by the experience.
So for specific flight blocking, and other KE blocking (like Fri-Sun flights that are often all blocked out across the board all 331 days up, with only Mon-Thu available - on certain routes), it is not necessarily DL and could be KE.
The routing rules is clearly DL, but the specific flight blocking (if direct flight search shows nothing) could be - and likely is - KE. Only way to really know is check availability via other ST airlines.. 2X and 1O per flight (ever) KE is very firm on SkyTeam and all partners wide. Only SkyPass members get greater availability than that.
KE blackout dates also is all DL blocking, however, and not KE. Those flights are wide open to DL.
But specific flight blocking, and possibly also day of week (Fri-Sun) blocking, I do believe could be KE.
Jun 8, 2019, 11:47 pm
#2507
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: IHG Platinum
Posts: 629
It may not be all DL. For quite a few years it was, it would appear at least, KE blocking KE51/52 and 53/54 flights (HNL-ICN, both of the daily flights) availability to other SkyTeam airlines, including Delta. Only KE1/2 (HNL-NRT) was available (but then as that was the only flight available, DL blocked KE to KE connections at NRT). Now it has come back just recently, but very rarely.
So for specific flight blocking, and other KE blocking (like Fri-Sun flights that are often all blocked out across the board all 331 days up, with only Mon-Thu available - on certain routes), it is not necessarily DL and could be KE.
The routing rules is clearly DL, but the specific flight blocking (if direct flight search shows nothing) could be - and likely is - KE. Only way to really know is check availability via other ST airlines.. 2X and 1O per flight (ever) KE is very firm on SkyTeam and all partners wide. Only SkyPass members get greater availability than that.
KE blackout dates also is all DL blocking, however, and not KE. Those flights are wide open to DL.
But specific flight blocking, and possibly also day of week (Fri-Sun) blocking, I do believe could be KE.
So for specific flight blocking, and other KE blocking (like Fri-Sun flights that are often all blocked out across the board all 331 days up, with only Mon-Thu available - on certain routes), it is not necessarily DL and could be KE.
The routing rules is clearly DL, but the specific flight blocking (if direct flight search shows nothing) could be - and likely is - KE. Only way to really know is check availability via other ST airlines.. 2X and 1O per flight (ever) KE is very firm on SkyTeam and all partners wide. Only SkyPass members get greater availability than that.
KE blackout dates also is all DL blocking, however, and not KE. Those flights are wide open to DL.
But specific flight blocking, and possibly also day of week (Fri-Sun) blocking, I do believe could be KE.
Jun 9, 2019, 10:48 am
#2508
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: HNL
Programs: DL PM/1MM, BW DE (lifetime), HH DE, Marriott PE (lifetime), National Emerald Executive
Posts: 7,205
It would be possibly KE blocking it if ORD-ICN wasn't available to DL (and other ST airlines), ever, in any shape or form. That has happened on some routes, but apparently not ORD-ICN.
Jun 14, 2019, 5:09 pm
#2509
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 133
So my experience, and several other people on this topic, is that if the flight you want is not shown on the companion booking page, but you can find the flight you want when you do a dummy regular booking (for money), for the fare classes that you can book a companion ticket for (L class and lower, I think it's LUTV fare classes), then you can call Delta reservations, and they can connect you with the companion ticket help desk who then can book the flight for you. This worked for me.
It's anybody's guess if the fare classes you need are still available next month when your companion certificate drops, and if the price holds, but given that the flights you want are 3-4 months out and not in a holiday weekend, at least the fare classes that you can book a companion ticket for should still be available.
It's anybody's guess if the fare classes you need are still available next month when your companion certificate drops, and if the price holds, but given that the flights you want are 3-4 months out and not in a holiday weekend, at least the fare classes that you can book a companion ticket for should still be available.
Jun 14, 2019, 5:17 pm
#2510
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Katy, TX
Programs: AA - PLT(2MM); DL - PM(2MM); Hilton - Gold; Marriott Bonvoy- Titanium; Hyatt - Platinum
Posts: 1,718
I'm having this issue trying to book tickets for August, literally no availability for 2 weeks when there are plenty of Economy seats for around $400. I'd like to follow the advice and search for just the LUTV classes, but I have no idea how to do that. Where do I start?
work with the companion certs. Bonne chance.
Jun 14, 2019, 8:15 pm
#2512
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Plat, DL AMEX Plat
Posts: 333
Good luck!
Jun 14, 2019, 8:19 pm
#2513
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Katy, TX
Programs: AA - PLT(2MM); DL - PM(2MM); Hilton - Gold; Marriott Bonvoy- Titanium; Hyatt - Platinum
Posts: 1,718
No there isn't, but it is not hard. Just choose "Basic Economy" as "Best Fares For", then check the fares that show up under "Main Cabin". The small letter between brackets next to "Main" (for example "Main (L)" or "Main (Q)" ) is the fare class you are looking for. If the fare class is LUV or T then that flight can be used for a companion ticket.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Jun 21, 2019, 2:23 am
#2515
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 133
No there isn't, but it is not hard. Just choose "Basic Economy" as "Best Fares For", then check the fares that show up under "Main Cabin". The small letter between brackets next to "Main" (for example "Main (L)" or "Main (Q)" ) is the fare class you are looking for. If the fare class is LUV or T then that flight can be used for a companion ticket.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Jun 23, 2019, 7:37 am
#2516
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,940
I’m deciding when to apply for this card. Terms say that cert is earned after paying annual fee. When does the AF become due? With first statement or at one year anniversary. Most of mine seem to come due right away. But something in the thread made me think it wasn’t till the one year mark for the cert.
I have a particular trip in mind to use the cert but it will be before the one year anniversary.
I have a particular trip in mind to use the cert but it will be before the one year anniversary.
Jun 23, 2019, 7:45 am
#2517
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: DL Scattered Smothered Covered Medallion, Some hotel & car stuff, Kroger Plus Card
Posts: 10,745
I’m deciding when to apply for this card. Terms say that cert is earned after paying annual fee. When does the AF become due? With first statement or at one year anniversary. Most of mine seem to come due right away. But something in the thread made me think it wasn’t till the one year mark for the cert.
I have a particular trip in mind to use the cert but it will be before the one year anniversary.
I have a particular trip in mind to use the cert but it will be before the one year anniversary.
First companion cert is issued with your *renewal* AF, so after holding the card about 11.5 months.
Jun 23, 2019, 8:06 am
#2518
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,940
Jun 24, 2019, 8:08 am
#2519
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Mexico City
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Silver, Choice Platinum, Wyndham Gold
Posts: 3,847
Hoping someone has some insight on this... for years have used Delta Platinum Amex. In December, upgraded to Delta Reserve to utilize the SkyClub access instead of paying for it separately as well as the upgraded companion fare ticket (booking in C+ or First). I just went to book a flight using the certificate and it's still showing my Delta Platinum card in My Wallet, and thus, only showing flights avail in Main Cabin. Any idea how or when it will change over to the Delta Reserve I now have (it's the same card number as my previous Platinum - was just an upgrade, not a new account).
Thanks for any help!
Thanks for any help!
Jun 24, 2019, 8:14 am
#2520
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: HSV
Programs: Bellevue Lifetime Premiere Mega Elite Supreme
Posts: 1,509
I have a Delta gold and thought about upgrading to the Delta platinum but it appears the only difference is a annual "domestic" round-trip complimentary ticket. I usually fly only international, and when flying domestic I fly one way to catch my international flight. I never book round trip domestic flights because I need to be flexible. So, is there any reason anybody can think of for me to upgrade? Also, it looks like the Delta Reserve had the same verbiage about domestic round-trip. I already have the amex platinum for lounges, so don't need that.
Well worth the $900 AF for us.