MQM Rollover Program- 2010 to 2011
Nov 13, 2010, 9:38 pm
#1
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MQM Rollover Program- 2010 to 2011
I just spoke to a representative on the phone. They told me that Delta Airlines has not issued whether or not they will be rolling over MQMs from 2010 to 2011.
This is the 3rd person I have spoken with and they have all given me different answers.
Does anybody know definitively whether or not this program will be available for next year?
This is the 3rd person I have spoken with and they have all given me different answers.
Does anybody know definitively whether or not this program will be available for next year?
Nov 14, 2010, 1:03 am
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T&C of the SkyMiles program states they can do whatever they want (more or less) but to discontinue the program with no advance notice would be a PR disaster.
I could see one year an announcement (probably November <grumble>) to say "this is the last year MQMs in excess of your current level can be rolled forward.
So say they made such an announcement today...that would allow the rollover to happen this year, and anything earned next year happens the old-fashioned way. They only people who get screwed are those that earned 250k MQM, etc.
I could see one year an announcement (probably November <grumble>) to say "this is the last year MQMs in excess of your current level can be rolled forward.
So say they made such an announcement today...that would allow the rollover to happen this year, and anything earned next year happens the old-fashioned way. They only people who get screwed are those that earned 250k MQM, etc.
Nov 14, 2010, 1:14 am
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There must be only a tiny number who get so many MQM that they can roll over twice. I recall a couple of posters who mention they're in the situation. From DL perspective would you not want to hold on to those outliers who manage to accumulate more than 250,000 MQM in a given year. I find it hard to imagine that they'd want to restrict these people while letting more modest MQM rollover to continue. Anybody who does all that in one year probably will continue to do similar things. That makes money for DL.
Nov 14, 2010, 1:24 am
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There must be only a tiny number who get so many MQM that they can roll over twice. I recall a couple of posters who mention they're in the situation. From DL perspective would you not want to hold on to those outliers who manage to accumulate more than 250,000 MQM in a given year. I find it hard to imagine that they'd want to restrict these people while letting more modest MQM rollover to continue. Anybody who does all that in one year probably will continue to do similar things. That makes money for DL.
Nov 14, 2010, 1:29 am
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I did not actually express my own preference but I agree that the consistent very frequent flyer would be better off without rollover. It has had no particular affect on me but it probably has had more on DL but increasing fliying of people who've just passed a threshold and don't expect to make the next one. I'd love to delve into their statistics on this; it should be quite interesting. Nobody has followed them, so maybe carryover was more a political decision than a rational economic one.
Nov 14, 2010, 2:11 am
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If DL cancelled rollover later than Q1 of the year it no longer applied, it would indeed be a PR disaster. In any event, I am quite sure it will apply for 2010 as it is posted all over DL's web site as a 2010 benefit, e.g.:
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/about_...es_program.jsp
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/about_...ance/index.jsp
Nov 14, 2010, 2:28 am
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Nov 14, 2010, 4:04 am
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I don't care if Delta has promos from Timbuktu - I will go to Timbuktu to get the promo - LOL....
Nov 14, 2010, 4:44 am
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I'm in the same boat on rollover. Will likely end the year with around 325K MQM's with 162K of those from rollover. Regularly put over 125K BIS miles on DL each year so I would be all for no rollover as it has the potential to cyclically saturate the DM ranks with PM's who accumulate ~100K MQM's each year alternating between PM and DM every other year.
Only real benefit right now is I could double dip on another airline for status but based on my home location it doesn't make much sense since DL has the best routing and availability.
Nov 14, 2010, 5:16 am
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Another +++ for the rollover.
I'm retired and always flying on my own dime. It made me crazy to lose those left over odd miles at the end of the year.
I love the roll-over. PLEASE hear me, Delta.
And yes, I'm sure there are lots more people with a few extra miles over silver, gold or plat than people with some extra over the higher levels. I'd guess most of these people appreciate the "running start" the roll-over permits. A fairly classic bell-shaped curve?
Romelle
I'm retired and always flying on my own dime. It made me crazy to lose those left over odd miles at the end of the year.
I love the roll-over. PLEASE hear me, Delta.
And yes, I'm sure there are lots more people with a few extra miles over silver, gold or plat than people with some extra over the higher levels. I'd guess most of these people appreciate the "running start" the roll-over permits. A fairly classic bell-shaped curve?
Romelle
Nov 14, 2010, 5:48 am
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If you don't mind me asking, what's your success rate on eligible upgrades this year?
Nov 14, 2010, 6:04 am
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My fingers are crossed that rollover will rightfully be killed. Also wish they would rid us of all MQM other than BIS. Bring back some integrity to the Medallion program.