Upgrade Order
Dec 10, 2015, 5:02 pm
#17
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SIN
Programs: Delta DM, DL MM
Posts: 230
Is it written somewhere that a Diamond using a GUC is upgraded before a DM who uses miles to upgrade? I was under the impression that if OP inventory becomes available one can use either a GUC or miles and that one doesn't trump the other, unless it is within the 24 hour window in which case one can't use miles.
Dec 10, 2015, 9:01 pm
#18
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Delta Diamond Medallion on Full Y
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrdae
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrdes
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrdae
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrdes
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Same question would apply for RUCs being used by non-PM/DM.
Dec 10, 2015, 9:09 pm
#19
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: DL DM, HH Diamond
Posts: 21
I questioned the RC quietly and politely on the plane and she was rude, saying in a loud voice that Mr. #3 was upgraded due to an equipment change. When I asked "Shouldn't that be reflected on the list?" She rolled her eyes and said she didn't know.
Dec 11, 2015, 6:28 am
#20
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM, DL MM
Posts: 4,245
Delta Diamond Medallion on Full Y
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrdae
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrdes
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrdae
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrdes
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Assuming you found a unicorn (i.e the odd agent who knows how to properly process your GUC / RUC request in the record) those should clear BEFORE any medallion upgrades - even at the gate
Dec 11, 2015, 7:12 am
#21
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York, western US
Programs: DM/3MM
Posts: 4,246
This JUST happened to me. Have the list to prove it. Was #1 with one available. Asked GA whether I should board. They said all full. Then RC comes on board and pulls the #3 to FC.
I questioned the RC quietly and politely on the plane and she was rude, saying in a loud voice that Mr. #3 was upgraded due to an equipment change. When I asked "Shouldn't that be reflected on the list?" She rolled her eyes and said she didn't know.
I questioned the RC quietly and politely on the plane and she was rude, saying in a loud voice that Mr. #3 was upgraded due to an equipment change. When I asked "Shouldn't that be reflected on the list?" She rolled her eyes and said she didn't know.
Dec 11, 2015, 9:10 am
#22
Join Date: May 2014
Location: PWM
Programs: Delta PM
Posts: 822
Delta Diamond Medallion on Full Y
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrades
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrades
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Dec 11, 2015, 10:11 am
#23
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York, western US
Programs: DM/3MM
Posts: 4,246
Don't forget about Skyteam elites. I can't recall where they rank but I thought it was after Silver. I could be wrong about that though.
Dec 11, 2015, 11:44 am
#24
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
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Delta Diamond Medallion on Full Y
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrdae
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrdes
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
Delta Platinum Medallion on Full Y
Delta Gold Medallion on Full Y
Delta Silver Medallion on Full Y
Delta Diamond Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Platinum Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Gold Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, N, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Silver Medallion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V, Pay with Miles (in that order)
Delta Diamond Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Platinum Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Gold Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Delta Silver Medallion Companion on B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X, V
Medallions who has the Delta Amex Reserve card received priority upgrade within the same Medallion Level and Same Fare class.
i.e PM on a V fare with Reserve beat another PM on a V fare who doesn't have Reserve but
PM on a X fare will still trump PM on a V fare with Reserve.
Above are taking RU/OU inventory
Delta Diamond using GUC
Delta Diamond using RUC
Delta Platinum using RUC
Delta Diamond Companion using GUC
Delta Diamond Companion using RUC
Delta Platinum Companion using RUC
Delta Diamond using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Platinum using Miles for Upgrdae
Delta Gold using Miles for Upgrdes
Delta Silver using Miles for Upgrade
Delta Skymiles Member using Miles for Upgrade
if the GUC/RUC companion has a medallion status I suspect it will be clear earlier then non elite pax
Upgrade with miles works for K or above fare on domestic flight,
Y, B, M only on international flight.
the above instrument upgrade are taking RP/OP inventory
You're also forgetting the possibility that a PM could have a GUC from the previous year, etc.. and in fact even a general member could have a GUC or RUC in their account.
Dec 11, 2015, 11:47 am
#25
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: CLT
Programs: Pre✓, Delta DM, Hilton LT Diamond, Mariott Plat, PC Gold, National EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,655
Thanks for the update Felixishim.
I often wondered about the "Tip your way to 1st" route. Apparently it does occur.
What is GUC and RUC? Something upgrade cupon perhaps?
I often wondered about the "Tip your way to 1st" route. Apparently it does occur.
What is GUC and RUC? Something upgrade cupon perhaps?
Dec 11, 2015, 12:25 pm
#26
Join Date: May 2014
Location: PWM
Programs: Delta PM
Posts: 822
RUC = Regional Upgrade Cert
AFAIK the only way to obtain those is to attain Platinum or Diamond Elite status. As MSP indicated above it's possible a "general" skymiles member might have one if the status lapsed before the cert expires.
Dec 11, 2015, 9:23 pm
#27
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What about a Plat (or even GM, FO, or non-status) using a GUC, as a someone could be a DM the previous year and selected GUCs as a choice gift towards the end of the year before losing DM status? Or would the GUCs expire when the DM status expires even if they were selected less than a year before the date of status drop?
Same question would apply for RUCs being used by non-PM/DM.
Same question would apply for RUCs being used by non-PM/DM.
Dec 12, 2015, 11:44 am
#28
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: All over
Programs: MR, HH, DL, ALK
Posts: 136
redo
Perhaps someone would like to redo the entire chart such that it includes the GUCs and RUCs all in line with the rest of the upgrade order AND also note that GUCs and RUCs are processed based on criteria such as fare class and when they're requested (in that order).
There's a great deal of complexity to the upgrade process. Many of us know it does not always go smoothly.
There's a great deal of complexity to the upgrade process. Many of us know it does not always go smoothly.
Dec 12, 2015, 11:46 am
#29
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
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Perhaps someone would like to redo the entire chart such that it includes the GUCs and RUCs all in line with the rest of the upgrade order AND also note that GUCs and RUCs are processed based on criteria such as fare class and when they're requested (in that order).
There's a great deal of complexity to the upgrade process. Many of us know it does not always go smoothly.
There's a great deal of complexity to the upgrade process. Many of us know it does not always go smoothly.
Dec 12, 2015, 12:29 pm
#30
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: CLT
Programs: Pre✓, Delta DM, Hilton LT Diamond, Mariott Plat, PC Gold, National EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,655
Redo
Perhaps someone would like to redo the entire chart such that it includes the GUCs and RUCs all in line with the rest of the upgrade order AND also note that GUCs and RUCs are processed based on criteria such as fare class and when they're requested (in that order).
There's a great deal of complexity to the upgrade process. Many of us know it does not always go smoothly.
Perhaps someone would like to redo the entire chart such that it includes the GUCs and RUCs all in line with the rest of the upgrade order AND also note that GUCs and RUCs are processed based on criteria such as fare class and when they're requested (in that order).
There's a great deal of complexity to the upgrade process. Many of us know it does not always go smoothly.