Upgrade Chances: The Definitive Thread
Nov 7, 2011, 12:22 pm
#1561
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Minnesota
Programs: DL DM - Hertz PC - SPG Platinum - Marriott Platinum
Posts: 23
Nov 7, 2011, 12:28 pm
#1562
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: So Fla & NYC
Programs: DL DM/2MM, UA MM, BV LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 23,766
Nevertheless, I have very bad news for you. That flight already shows only F4G0V0 and the UG chances are slim, even for a DM.
Nov 7, 2011, 10:32 pm
#1563
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: PDX, ROA
Programs: DL FO
Posts: 27
Ahh yes, I was mistaken. Too bad. Thanks for the help though.
Nov 9, 2011, 12:06 am
#1564
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: PHX SLC PVG TPE COK
Programs: UA Platinum. 1MM IHG Platinum. National EE. Hertz PC
Posts: 56
Learning...
I have an unhealthy obsession with UG's my friends and family think I am nuts. "Why spend more hours figuring out a flight than time you will actually be on the plane?" It's just a hobby few understand.
I'm GM on DL27 JFK-LAX 11/11
2 Qs:
1)On Expertflyer it shows 2 in I and 4 in J on delta.com it shows there are only 5 seats available? How does that work? is there an I/J overlap?
2)Is there any data to see how close to the flight they usually open up the remaining V/X?
Thanks!
I'm GM on DL27 JFK-LAX 11/11
2 Qs:
1)On Expertflyer it shows 2 in I and 4 in J on delta.com it shows there are only 5 seats available? How does that work? is there an I/J overlap?
2)Is there any data to see how close to the flight they usually open up the remaining V/X?
Thanks!
Nov 9, 2011, 12:07 pm
#1565
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,010
I have an unhealthy obsession with UG's my friends and family think I am nuts. "Why spend more hours figuring out a flight than time you will actually be on the plane?" It's just a hobby few understand.
I'm GM on DL27 JFK-LAX 11/11
2 Qs:
1)On Expertflyer it shows 2 in I and 4 in J on delta.com it shows there are only 5 seats available? How does that work? is there an I/J overlap?
2)Is there any data to see how close to the flight they usually open up the remaining V/X?
Thanks!
I'm GM on DL27 JFK-LAX 11/11
2 Qs:
1)On Expertflyer it shows 2 in I and 4 in J on delta.com it shows there are only 5 seats available? How does that work? is there an I/J overlap?
2)Is there any data to see how close to the flight they usually open up the remaining V/X?
Thanks!
2. With these flights, it almost always goes to gate control. There are a few stories on FT about getting upgraded in advance on the JFK-SFO/LAX flights, but those typically don't happen (and almost certainly won't happen on your flight, given how little space is left).
Nov 9, 2011, 1:28 pm
#1566
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Yellow Springs
Programs: AS 75k
Posts: 1,523
After all, there is little that is more injurious to one's health (physical and mental) than a 5+ hour ride in the back of the plane.
Yes, there is an I/J overlap. J is the # of Business seats that DL is willing to sell at full price, although 9 is the most it will ever show. I is a discounted Business fare class and usually a subset of J.
Nov 15, 2011, 10:28 am
#1568
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 5
Howdy. New to FT.
I've looked at ExpertFlyer, but cannot tell how to find out how many of what fare are available in Bus/First for DL 176 ATL to DUB on Feb. 13. Looks like only four of 30 seats are currently taken.
I'm Silver, and it's a discounted ticket, so I know the chances are probably pretty low for me and my partner.
Thanks!
I've looked at ExpertFlyer, but cannot tell how to find out how many of what fare are available in Bus/First for DL 176 ATL to DUB on Feb. 13. Looks like only four of 30 seats are currently taken.
I'm Silver, and it's a discounted ticket, so I know the chances are probably pretty low for me and my partner.
Thanks!
Nov 15, 2011, 10:30 am
#1569
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
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Howdy. New to FT.
I've looked at ExpertFlyer, but cannot tell how to find out how many of what fare are available in Bus/First for DL 176 ATL to DUB on Feb. 13. Looks like only four of 30 seats are currently taken.
I'm Silver, and it's a discounted ticket, so I know the chances are probably pretty low for me and my partner.
Thanks!
I've looked at ExpertFlyer, but cannot tell how to find out how many of what fare are available in Bus/First for DL 176 ATL to DUB on Feb. 13. Looks like only four of 30 seats are currently taken.
I'm Silver, and it's a discounted ticket, so I know the chances are probably pretty low for me and my partner.
Thanks!
Nov 15, 2011, 10:55 am
#1570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 5
Yes, Dublin Ireland. Can you explain a little more about what you mean when you say "You cannot get an upgrade to DUB unless you buy a $3500 M fare?" Is that because I'm Silver, or because that's the lowest discounted fare they'll upgrade, or what?
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
Nov 15, 2011, 12:13 pm
#1571
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,010
It's because DL (nor any US carrier) doesn't offer free upgrades on TATL/TPAC flights (technically speaking, they don't offer upgrades on international flights marketed with Business Elite). The only exception is when they need to operationally upgrade someone because of an oversale in Y. In that case, they go down the pecking order with regard to elite status and upgrade those folks until the load is balanced.
Nov 21, 2011, 9:06 am
#1573
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: DL PM, UA Premier Platinum, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, Starwood Gold, Priority Club Platinum
Posts: 57
My anecdote:
Last year flew ATL-SJD on Christmas Day as an FO, back from SJD-ATL on New Year's Eve as a GM (the flight down put me over from FO to GM, and the status didn't post until already inside the 3-day GM window.)
No upgrade on ATL-SJD, but upgrade for me AND my non-medallion companion on the SJD-ATL flight home.
Looking forward to seeing what happens this year as a PM (with FO travel partner).
Last year flew ATL-SJD on Christmas Day as an FO, back from SJD-ATL on New Year's Eve as a GM (the flight down put me over from FO to GM, and the status didn't post until already inside the 3-day GM window.)
No upgrade on ATL-SJD, but upgrade for me AND my non-medallion companion on the SJD-ATL flight home.
Looking forward to seeing what happens this year as a PM (with FO travel partner).
Nov 22, 2011, 7:07 am
#1574
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 8,184
I just looked back at my upgrade rates since I made FO last Spring. I've flown a total of 25 segments where an upgrade was possible (domestic flight with FC seats).
Overall, I've had 15 upgrades for a rate of 60%.
As an FO I was 6 for 12 for 50%.
As GM I've been 9 for 13 for 69%.
Six more segments to go as a GM before I make PM.
Overall, I've had 15 upgrades for a rate of 60%.
As an FO I was 6 for 12 for 50%.
As GM I've been 9 for 13 for 69%.
Six more segments to go as a GM before I make PM.