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Vuelos Jan 14, 2011 3:08 pm

Been around a while.

BusTrav8yrs Jan 14, 2011 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by GBadger (Post 15659404)
Hm-- $28 for 1000 miles. So, some quick math:
For that 375,000 mile ticket to Sydney, that's $10500.

No thanks Delta!!!

Or a low coach award at $700. No thanks.

GBadger Jan 14, 2011 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by BusTrav8yrs (Post 15659804)
Or a low coach award at $700. No thanks.

Just to clarify -- This statement is for low coach domestic, not to Sydney. (which I'm certain BusTrav8yrs is aware of, but just want to make sure others don't get confused between the comment and the quote).

turkeyRIOO Jan 14, 2011 3:41 pm

This has been reported to work with the regular platinum amex annual $200 airline fee rebate. Some FTers may find that this is a good use of the rebate.

rankourabu Jan 14, 2011 3:47 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 15659511)
I got a good break on my last TLV-LAS award ticket -- low one way and medium the other. Total cost: 175,000 SkyMiles for Biz Elite.

sorry to pick on your example....

but 175,000 to TLV is a "good break" :confused:

I guess when you are using SkyPesos it is.

The award would be 115,000 with Star Alliance, and there is nearly daily availability in C.

StayingHomeIsBetter Jan 14, 2011 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 15659470)
Same as buying miles the regular way except with no processing fee. I can see how it would be useful to the non-frequent flyer if your next flight will put you 1,000 miles away from an award and you want to pay the $28 to get there quickly and redeem the award, but otherwise it is the same overpriced offering.

Then you find that the 25,000 mile award you have been working towards is now 40,000 miles.

edweird Jan 14, 2011 7:13 pm

No MQMs, no care.

spunk_tokyo Jan 14, 2011 7:43 pm

Why would anybody go for this Award Builder??:confused:

mhbaker Jan 15, 2011 11:58 am

How about a comparable Delta Award Spender program that will help me get rid of the miles I have. I would be happy to sell them back to DL at the same rate it wants to sell them to me.

Evan! Jan 15, 2011 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by mhbaker (Post 15664584)
How about a comparable Delta Award Spender program that will help me get rid of the miles I have. I would be happy to sell them back to DL at the same rate it wants to sell them to me.

Wow. Notify the press. I'm sure DL is ready to jump on that offer. :D

StayingHomeIsBetter Jan 15, 2011 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 15659782)
... Easy way to raise cash from the financially illiterate.

You have just described "marketing."

Especially as it is applied in the airline industry. :D

exwannabe Jan 15, 2011 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by spunk_tokyo (Post 15661255)
Why would anybody go for this Award Builder??:confused:

Because many people are clueless at math and simply do not realize how bad the rate is.

Same people who buy all those $5 a month extras on services w/o even thinking; because it is just $5.

Same people who buy extended warrentes on electronics that they will likely replace in a couple years anyway.

Seriously, there is a large subset of the modern consumer that is really clueless.

TATL lawyer Jan 16, 2011 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by exwannabe (Post 15665266)
Because many people are clueless at math and simply do not realize how bad the rate is.

Same people who buy all those $5 a month extras on services w/o even thinking; because it is just $5.

Same people who buy extended warrentes on electronics that they will likely replace in a couple years anyway.

Seriously, there is a large subset of the modern consumer that is really clueless.

To help reassure myself that I am not useless at math..

2,000 bonus for next 3 flights @ $168 is 6,000 miles.

Buying 6,000 miles costs ... er... $168.

So as far as I can see, the only benefit is that you can (if not a FF and who desperately needs to hit an award) is that you can buy miles (for that is all this truly is) in an odd number. Whereas buy miles is in multiples of 2000 only.

There was lots of talk about people being short of an award ticket and it being helpful ... the question to which I would please like a short answer is this:

Why is it any more helpful than the regular "buy miles" when they cost the same?? The only answer is flexibility in the exact amount of miles needed?

I am asking for help (not criticizing previous posts .. not my style :) ). If I look like an idiot (a possibility :rolleyes:) it is simply because I have NEVER bought miles .. I have a lot of BIS miles and MQMs and use other products where I collect them for free....

(eg needed to spend $300 at homedepot anyway so used amex (gets 1Mp$) to buy a GC from Skymilesshopping when 4 miles were on offer. Cost? 0. Miles = 1600 plus 300 on amex bill at month end).

Please let me know if I have missed an awesome deal to "build" rather than "buy" miles. The prominence of the offer on dl.com suggests I have not.

Advice gratefully received.

PersonalFlotationDevice Jan 16, 2011 6:45 pm

I wonder if the implied target market is really people who would be comfortable billing the ticket cost (including the Miles Builder or whatever it's called) to their expense account / client.

Note that I think this would be unethical, but for those who might be inclined to do this, it renders the relative value of buying miles through this channel vs. the normal buy miles option somewhat irrelevant.

DeltaFan4Now Jan 16, 2011 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 15659782)
Easy way to raise cash from the financially illiterate.


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 15664861)
You have just described "marketing."

Especially as it is applied in the airline industry. :D

Ah the beauty of raw capitalism. If only I didn't feel dirty when I did immoral things I could clean up... ;)

TATL lawyer Jan 16, 2011 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice (Post 15671695)
I wonder if the implied target market is really people who would be comfortable billing the ticket cost (including the Miles Builder or whatever it's called) to their expense account / client.

Note that I think this would be unethical, but for those who might be inclined to do this, it renders the relative value of buying miles through this channel vs. the normal buy miles option somewhat irrelevant.

Oh my gosh - that is depraved ... I like the way you think.


Originally Posted by DeltaFan4Now (Post 15671743)
Ah the beauty of raw capitalism. If only I didn't feel dirty when I did immoral things I could clean up... ;)

And thus confirms the previous post.

Clearly, rather than "Driving Every Loyal Traveller Away", DL is Satan's plaything, corrupting us MilesJunkies with ways to sell our souls for skypesos. Please count me in :D

javabytes Jan 17, 2011 12:14 pm


Originally Posted by TATL lawyer (Post 15671671)
Why is it any more helpful than the regular "buy miles" when they cost the same?? The only answer is flexibility in the exact amount of miles needed?

No $30 transaction fee.

TATL lawyer Jan 17, 2011 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 15676081)
No $30 transaction fee.

Hello again Javabytes

Oh my gosh. That's IT? In that case it's as much of a waste of time as I thought and it'll be BIS for me - will leave the "builder" to others.

Thanks for the response. ^

tsken02 Feb 21, 2011 8:59 pm

I read thru the T&C and it seems there may be another difference. If you use Award Builder, and your plans change, they will expire after 12 months. Miles you Buy, don't seem to expire.


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