Anybody on Delta flt 11 (ATL to MCO) yesterday?
Aug 8, 2010, 1:31 pm
#1
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Anybody on Delta flt 11 (ATL to MCO) yesterday?
Damn thing was an absolute oven as no ground air and sat for a long while at the gate (in ATL) fully loaded waiting for flight crew. Was disgustingly hot (and I normally don't complain about hot/cold cabins).
They finally got a maintenance guy to come up and turn on some air. I can understand cabins being warm/hot during the summer time, but they need to make sure that a jet isn't allowed to sit like that with no air while full up with passengers.
FA's weren't very happy about the situation either.
They finally got a maintenance guy to come up and turn on some air. I can understand cabins being warm/hot during the summer time, but they need to make sure that a jet isn't allowed to sit like that with no air while full up with passengers.
FA's weren't very happy about the situation either.
Aug 8, 2010, 3:23 pm
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My last 2 flights out of PHX have had the identical problem, except instead of 97 degrees and humid its 115 with no clouds, beating on the metal tube Im seated in. Thats hot.
Aug 8, 2010, 7:28 pm
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I have seen it or more flights this summer than ever before. Sometimes there are excuses like "We are trying to get it back on" but it seems to me they are just shutting it down, often until runway taxi.
Either the a/c on DL aircraft is failing all over or there is a bean counter decision to minimze a/c use. Not sure which it is.
Either the a/c on DL aircraft is failing all over or there is a bean counter decision to minimze a/c use. Not sure which it is.
Aug 8, 2010, 7:34 pm
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Aug 8, 2010, 7:38 pm
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Though FA banter is far from the source of all truth and knowledge, the FA seated in the 2R jumpseat on my 757 from RDU-ATL last week mentioned this very thing. Without being prompted she went on a small rant about how the pilots have been instructed to leave the ground air off and that they're called on the carpet when they do turn it on of their own accord. She went on to ask all of us seated in the exit row so send notes to Delta about how uncomfortable the experience was. Again, I take a lot of this with a grain of salt, but..
Aug 8, 2010, 7:38 pm
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How is this anything new? Ever since the fuel price spike several years ago, it seems the MO went to eliminating the use of the APU until right before push-back, and running to the runway on one engine.
Jetway A/C units have their work cut out for them when it comes to cooling off a 'heavy', especially in ATL in August....
Jetway A/C units have their work cut out for them when it comes to cooling off a 'heavy', especially in ATL in August....
Aug 9, 2010, 8:30 pm
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Pilots for months have been getting constant reminders to not run the APU's while on the ground to conserve fuel. Of course the next sentence says something about taking care of out customers and use your best judgment. Apparently not every gate in ATL or some other hubs/out stations don't have air hook-ups. I've sat on several planes in ATL this summer sweating up a storm as well...
Aug 10, 2010, 7:04 am
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Pilots for months have been getting constant reminders to not run the APU's while on the ground to conserve fuel. Of course the next sentence says something about taking care of out customers and use your best judgment. Apparently not every gate in ATL or some other hubs/out stations don't have air hook-ups. I've sat on several planes in ATL this summer sweating up a storm as well...
Aug 10, 2010, 7:45 am
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Same thing on Flt 2280 - ATL to JAX on August 9th - Gate A10 - it was sweltering in the aircraft and the FA's were constantly reminding the passengers to keep the shades down to keep the aircraft "cool"
What will it take - some one passing out due to heat exhaustion before the bean counters wake up - I bet a law suit settlement will be more expensive compared to the amount saved.
What will it take - some one passing out due to heat exhaustion before the bean counters wake up - I bet a law suit settlement will be more expensive compared to the amount saved.
Aug 10, 2010, 9:32 am
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The sunshade request isn't uncommon (and was made on the flight), and helps some. However, if left to long to sit in the sun, with no supplemental cooling, it still can get ridiculously hot.