Various spoke cities: double MQM + up to 50,000 bonus miles per round-trip
Jun 22, 2010, 10:30 pm
#346
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MCO
Programs: DL-DM/1MM, HILTON-DIA, .HYATT-DIA/GLOB , IHG-PLT,HERTZ 5*, NATIONAL ES
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Jun 23, 2010, 4:36 am
#349
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tokyo
Programs: NW Diamond, LH SEN, PC Spire - RA, TG PlatHyatt Diamond
Posts: 585
So, according to Kevin_SkyMiles Promotions this open jaw itn. is eligible for the promotion,
1. 07JUL STL-ATL-NRT-BKK
2. 12AUG NRT-ATL-STL
My question is for STL-BKK with a stopover in NRT itin. as follows:
1. 07JUL STL-ATL-NRT-BKK
2. 15JUL BKK-NRT
3. 12AUG NRT-ATL-STL
is the No.1 and 3 segments are eligible for the promo?
1. 07JUL STL-ATL-NRT-BKK
2. 12AUG NRT-ATL-STL
My question is for STL-BKK with a stopover in NRT itin. as follows:
1. 07JUL STL-ATL-NRT-BKK
2. 15JUL BKK-NRT
3. 12AUG NRT-ATL-STL
is the No.1 and 3 segments are eligible for the promo?
Jun 23, 2010, 7:02 am
#350
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: DL SkyMiles PM/2MM, AA Plat, IC Diam. Amb., Peninsula regular, amanjunkie
Posts: 5,848
I will join the many others thanking Kevin for clarifying the T&C's of this promotion. Based on the clarification provided, a friend and I will be booking tickets to take advantage of this promotion. Note that it was the combination of the promotion and the clarification of the T&C's that will result in our purchase and revenue to DL. Without Kevin's clarification, there would have been no purchase by us and that revenue to DL would have been lost.
Without getting into how DL does in comparison to other carriers, I'd hazard that DL seems to have a disconnect between the folks who decide what the promotions will be (surely that decision included whether the beyond-hub connecting flights would qualify for double MQM's) and the folks who write the T&C. There may also be a need for some creativity in analyzing the T&C's and the myriad ways the promotion could be exploited.
It's long been said that FT is a focus group for airlines served up for free on a silver platter. But having all this get hashed out in public adds to some confusion and can generate some illwill.
I suggest that Delta consider making a real private focus group of FTers to "vet" T&C's for promotions like this. Participants would identify the many permutations of how fliers could try to participate in the promotion and thus identify any ambiguities in the T&C's. Delta's T&C-writers could then clarify the language before the promotion goes live. Delta could bind the focus group to secrecy by contract, compensate them with miles (low cost to Delta, real value to FT types), and enforce the secrecy provisions on pain of miles forfeiture and account closure-- now that would scare us silent!
....just a thought.
Without getting into how DL does in comparison to other carriers, I'd hazard that DL seems to have a disconnect between the folks who decide what the promotions will be (surely that decision included whether the beyond-hub connecting flights would qualify for double MQM's) and the folks who write the T&C. There may also be a need for some creativity in analyzing the T&C's and the myriad ways the promotion could be exploited.
It's long been said that FT is a focus group for airlines served up for free on a silver platter. But having all this get hashed out in public adds to some confusion and can generate some illwill.
I suggest that Delta consider making a real private focus group of FTers to "vet" T&C's for promotions like this. Participants would identify the many permutations of how fliers could try to participate in the promotion and thus identify any ambiguities in the T&C's. Delta's T&C-writers could then clarify the language before the promotion goes live. Delta could bind the focus group to secrecy by contract, compensate them with miles (low cost to Delta, real value to FT types), and enforce the secrecy provisions on pain of miles forfeiture and account closure-- now that would scare us silent!
....just a thought.
Jun 23, 2010, 7:11 am
#351
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Programs: DL DM 1.929MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, IHG Platinum, Avis CHM, Marriott Titanium (lifetime gold)
Posts: 7,857
I suggest that Delta consider making a real private focus group of FTers to "vet" T&C's for promotions like this. Participants would identify the many permutations of how fliers could try to participate in the promotion and thus identify any ambiguities in the T&C's. Delta's T&C-writers could then clarify the language before the promotion goes live. Delta could bind the focus group to secrecy by contract, compensate them with miles (low cost to Delta, real value to FT types), and enforce the secrecy provisions on pain of miles forfeiture and account closure-- now that would scare us silent!
David
Jun 23, 2010, 7:49 am
#352
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MCO
Programs: DL-DM/1MM, HILTON-DIA, .HYATT-DIA/GLOB , IHG-PLT,HERTZ 5*, NATIONAL ES
Posts: 8,691
I will join the many others thanking Kevin for clarifying the T&C's of this promotion. Based on the clarification provided, a friend and I will be booking tickets to take advantage of this promotion. Note that it was the combination of the promotion and the clarification of the T&C's that will result in our purchase and revenue to DL. Without Kevin's clarification, there would have been no purchase by us and that revenue to DL would have been lost.
Without getting into how DL does in comparison to other carriers, I'd hazard that DL seems to have a disconnect between the folks who decide what the promotions will be (surely that decision included whether the beyond-hub connecting flights would qualify for double MQM's) and the folks who write the T&C. There may also be a need for some creativity in analyzing the T&C's and the myriad ways the promotion could be exploited.
It's long been said that FT is a focus group for airlines served up for free on a silver platter. But having all this get hashed out in public adds to some confusion and can generate some illwill.
I suggest that Delta consider making a real private focus group of FTers to "vet" T&C's for promotions like this. Participants would identify the many permutations of how fliers could try to participate in the promotion and thus identify any ambiguities in the T&C's. Delta's T&C-writers could then clarify the language before the promotion goes live. Delta could bind the focus group to secrecy by contract, compensate them with miles (low cost to Delta, real value to FT types), and enforce the secrecy provisions on pain of miles forfeiture and account closure-- now that would scare us silent!
....just a thought.
Without getting into how DL does in comparison to other carriers, I'd hazard that DL seems to have a disconnect between the folks who decide what the promotions will be (surely that decision included whether the beyond-hub connecting flights would qualify for double MQM's) and the folks who write the T&C. There may also be a need for some creativity in analyzing the T&C's and the myriad ways the promotion could be exploited.
It's long been said that FT is a focus group for airlines served up for free on a silver platter. But having all this get hashed out in public adds to some confusion and can generate some illwill.
I suggest that Delta consider making a real private focus group of FTers to "vet" T&C's for promotions like this. Participants would identify the many permutations of how fliers could try to participate in the promotion and thus identify any ambiguities in the T&C's. Delta's T&C-writers could then clarify the language before the promotion goes live. Delta could bind the focus group to secrecy by contract, compensate them with miles (low cost to Delta, real value to FT types), and enforce the secrecy provisions on pain of miles forfeiture and account closure-- now that would scare us silent!
....just a thought.
Can the average FT'er keep a secret?
Jun 23, 2010, 8:03 am
#353
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lafayette, CO, USA
Programs: SPG Lifetime Plat, AA Gold, UA Gold, DL Silver, HH Gold, Vail Epic
Posts: 9,096
On topic:
DL has matched AA's fare between RDU and LGA.
$88++ = $109.40 RT ai
Sep 8 - Nov 17. Excludes Fri & Sun.
Connections allowed.
RDU-DTW-LGA-DTW-RDU = $88++ = $130.80 RT ai
RDU-ATL-LGA-ATL-RDU is same price and gives more miles.
Jun 23, 2010, 8:17 am
#354
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAS, SAT, IAH
Programs: Flying Nut
Posts: 6,365
Without a doubt, there are stupid answers, too. Thanks for contributing.
On topic:
DL has matched AA's fare between RDU and LGA.
$88++ = $109.40 RT ai
Sep 8 - Nov 17. Excludes Fri & Sun.
Connections allowed.
RDU-DTW-LGA-DTW-RDU = $88++ = $130.80 RT ai
RDU-ATL-LGA-ATL-RDU is same price and gives more miles.
On topic:
DL has matched AA's fare between RDU and LGA.
$88++ = $109.40 RT ai
Sep 8 - Nov 17. Excludes Fri & Sun.
Connections allowed.
RDU-DTW-LGA-DTW-RDU = $88++ = $130.80 RT ai
RDU-ATL-LGA-ATL-RDU is same price and gives more miles.
Jun 23, 2010, 9:09 am
#355
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SAN
Programs: Delta Silver; 0.75MM: AA; Alaska; Southwest
Posts: 1,155
There is a problem with that. If you have more than one PNR Delta is not responsible if you miss a connection between the two.
Let's say that you fork out $200 for a PHL-PIT LUT fare on one PNR and $4000 on an I fare to take you PIT-ATL-TLV on another. Your flight out of PHL is delayed and you don't make it in time for your PIT-ATL segment.
Tough luck. You can now throw away your I ticket -- it is worthless.
Let's say that you fork out $200 for a PHL-PIT LUT fare on one PNR and $4000 on an I fare to take you PIT-ATL-TLV on another. Your flight out of PHL is delayed and you don't make it in time for your PIT-ATL segment.
Tough luck. You can now throw away your I ticket -- it is worthless.
Jun 23, 2010, 9:14 am
#356
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: HSV
Programs: DL SkyMiles PM/1.2MM, UA Premier gold/1MM, Choice diamond, Marriott gold
Posts: 1,374
I didn't receive an EMail (I'm based in HSV) but I successfully registered for BNA. It shows up in my list of registered promotions but, interestingly, when I click the hyperlink it gives me a message that says "The promotion you are trying to view does not exist."
Jun 23, 2010, 10:31 am
#357
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Phoenix
Programs: DL Million Miler, Skymiles GM, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite
Posts: 677
Clarification? Someone? Anyone?
This situation applies to multiple individuals in this thread. Can SMI or Kevin let us know if we should be concerned or not? I dont want book a $1000+ ticket if I'm not eligible for the double MQMs.
Jun 23, 2010, 10:53 am
#358
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: HSV
Programs: DL SkyMiles PM/1.2MM, UA Premier gold/1MM, Choice diamond, Marriott gold
Posts: 1,374
I PMed Kevin with this question. Will advise when/if I hear anything.
Jun 23, 2010, 11:19 am
#359
In memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2005
Location: PIT
Programs: DM life is over 2MM PM now & NW MillionAir Wyndham Rewards Plat -Hotels.com Silver -Accor Silver
Posts: 15,408
I can tell you that I DID receive the eMail, and it's the same thing for me. After I registered, it showed up under "My Promotions", but when you click on the link, it goes nowhere.
Jun 23, 2010, 12:43 pm
#360
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta Skymiles PM. Starwood Gold
Posts: 29
Wow - this promotion is good for me, but probably bad for a lot of people who are annoyed by an inflated number of Golds. I'm always comfortably silver, and have 15,000 MQMs so far this year, with roughly 20,000 MQMs to book for work travel (none internationally, unfortunately).
Maybe I'm misinterpreting but it seems like by simply paying for my one way from LGA-PIT ($64.40) and flying out of there, open jaw each time (ending up back at LGA), I may be able to reach gold this year. Now if only I can figure out how to get my company to pay for the extra flight
Annoying to research and book, but possibly worth it in the end.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting but it seems like by simply paying for my one way from LGA-PIT ($64.40) and flying out of there, open jaw each time (ending up back at LGA), I may be able to reach gold this year. Now if only I can figure out how to get my company to pay for the extra flight
Annoying to research and book, but possibly worth it in the end.