Various spoke cities: double MQM + up to 50,000 bonus miles per round-trip
Jun 21, 2010, 8:18 am
#257
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Jun 21, 2010, 8:33 am
#258
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Jun 21, 2010, 8:52 am
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Don't forget the possibility that you only get double the BASE mileage...
In DL math, triple is really 2.3x, unless you're ex-NW, which case it's only 2.x.
In DL math, triple is really 2.3x, unless you're ex-NW, which case it's only 2.x.
Jun 21, 2010, 8:53 am
#260
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I e-mailed Delta about the promotion and the response I got was different than the response Javabytes received. Here is what they said to me regarding my specific question as to whether the international portion of a flight, such as Sydney, counts if not a direct flight from one of the targeted cities. The response
"I appreciate your concerns over the promotion offer double MQMs from the
targeted cities of St. Louis, Raleigh-Durham, Pittsburgh and Nashville.
The promotion's terms and conditions are that trips must be on
Delta-marketed and operated nonstop flights originating out of St.
Louis, Pittsburgh, Nashville, or Raleigh Durham.
Currently, no nonstop flight to Sydney, Australia exists from any of
these four cities. In fact, few nonstop international flights originate
out of these airports. Perhaps the lone exception is the nonstop between
Pittsburgh and Paris.
From an international standpoint, Ms. FC Flyer, I am pleased to
reassure you that little impact will be felt on your benefits from this
promotion."
They are obviously giving out conflicting information.
"I appreciate your concerns over the promotion offer double MQMs from the
targeted cities of St. Louis, Raleigh-Durham, Pittsburgh and Nashville.
The promotion's terms and conditions are that trips must be on
Delta-marketed and operated nonstop flights originating out of St.
Louis, Pittsburgh, Nashville, or Raleigh Durham.
Currently, no nonstop flight to Sydney, Australia exists from any of
these four cities. In fact, few nonstop international flights originate
out of these airports. Perhaps the lone exception is the nonstop between
Pittsburgh and Paris.
From an international standpoint, Ms. FC Flyer, I am pleased to
reassure you that little impact will be felt on your benefits from this
promotion."
They are obviously giving out conflicting information.
Last edited by Dvike; Jun 21, 2010 at 9:10 am
Jun 21, 2010, 10:06 am
#261
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Currently, no nonstop flight to Sydney, Australia exists from any of
these four cities. In fact, few nonstop international flights originate
out of these airports. Perhaps the lone exception is the nonstop between
Pittsburgh and Paris.
From an international standpoint, Ms. FC Flyer, I am pleased to
reassure you that little impact will be felt on your benefits from this
promotion."
these four cities. In fact, few nonstop international flights originate
out of these airports. Perhaps the lone exception is the nonstop between
Pittsburgh and Paris.
From an international standpoint, Ms. FC Flyer, I am pleased to
reassure you that little impact will be felt on your benefits from this
promotion."
Let's see, DL offers enticing MQM and mileage bonusus for international flights from FOUR cities. Except, golly, three of the cities have no qualifying (nonstop) international flights and the fourth city has only a few, sorry, only one. So if THIS email is to be believed, the bonus should have read that there are bonuses for domestic nonstops to hubs and internationally only on the PIT-CDG nonstop. They are either incredibly clever with this obfuscation to trick us into booking international trips we otherwise would not have booked and then being "so sorry" later, or they are incredibly incompetent. Right hand meet left hand.
Jun 21, 2010, 10:12 am
#262
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Three e-mails later, here is the one I just received moments ago
"Thank you for your e-mail. We regret any misunderstanding that may have
occurred concerning our procedures.
I have forwarded you comments on to our promotions department for
clarification. It does sound like there may be some misleading
information regarding this specific offer. I wouldn't want to guess
and give you my opinion when it may not be correct. When I receive the
specific details I will be in touch.
Please accept our apology for the unfavorable impression you received in
this instance. We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always
consider it a privilege to be of service. "
"Thank you for your e-mail. We regret any misunderstanding that may have
occurred concerning our procedures.
I have forwarded you comments on to our promotions department for
clarification. It does sound like there may be some misleading
information regarding this specific offer. I wouldn't want to guess
and give you my opinion when it may not be correct. When I receive the
specific details I will be in touch.
Please accept our apology for the unfavorable impression you received in
this instance. We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always
consider it a privilege to be of service. "
Jun 21, 2010, 11:02 am
#263
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Three e-mails later, here is the one I just received moments ago
"Thank you for your e-mail. We regret any misunderstanding that may have
occurred concerning our procedures.
I have forwarded you comments on to our promotions department for
clarification. It does sound like there may be some misleading
information regarding this specific offer. I wouldn't want to guess
and give you my opinion when it may not be correct. When I receive the
specific details I will be in touch.
Please accept our apology for the unfavorable impression you received in
this instance. We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always
consider it a privilege to be of service. "
"Thank you for your e-mail. We regret any misunderstanding that may have
occurred concerning our procedures.
I have forwarded you comments on to our promotions department for
clarification. It does sound like there may be some misleading
information regarding this specific offer. I wouldn't want to guess
and give you my opinion when it may not be correct. When I receive the
specific details I will be in touch.
Please accept our apology for the unfavorable impression you received in
this instance. We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always
consider it a privilege to be of service. "
hope the person up the chain can clear this whole mess up b/c really only having ONE non-stop flight intl is just lame and quite misleading.
Jun 21, 2010, 11:30 am
#264
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You really have to think the unclear wording is intentional - because they keep doing it over and over and over again. So someone is either intentionally writing it this way, or someone is intentionally refusing to fire the whoever insists on writing it this way.
It's just ridiculous that a major corporation can have communications like this that are this confusing.
It's just ridiculous that a major corporation can have communications like this that are this confusing.
Jun 21, 2010, 11:35 am
#265
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If this promo is intended to address WN in these cities, double MQMs for nonstop and connections thorough hubs makes sense. International makes little sense, unless the promo was considering AA competition at RDU, BNA, and STL.
The bonus miles make sense regardless at trying to woo customers from WN and AA.
I wonder if the intent of this plan is that double MQMs would only be earned on the spoke city to hub leg, and then the only bonus from the hub city to the destination are the bonus SkyPesos(tm).
I guess I will wait until I know the specifics before I try to change my flight to FCO to originate from BNA vs. ATL.
The bonus miles make sense regardless at trying to woo customers from WN and AA.
I wonder if the intent of this plan is that double MQMs would only be earned on the spoke city to hub leg, and then the only bonus from the hub city to the destination are the bonus SkyPesos(tm).
I guess I will wait until I know the specifics before I try to change my flight to FCO to originate from BNA vs. ATL.
Jun 21, 2010, 11:46 am
#266
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Jun 21, 2010, 12:46 pm
#267
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It seems pretty clear to me what is valid in this promo, people are getting too hung up on the wording non-stop.
RDU-ATL-NRT-ATL-NRT valid
PIT-MSP-PIT valid
STL-DTW-PDX-DTW-STL valid
CHA-RDU-ATL-RDU-CHA not valid
RDU-ATL-LAX-RDU not valid
PIT-MSP-PHL not valid
As long as you are connecting thru a hub it is "non-stop"
RDU-ATL-NRT-ATL-NRT valid
PIT-MSP-PIT valid
STL-DTW-PDX-DTW-STL valid
CHA-RDU-ATL-RDU-CHA not valid
RDU-ATL-LAX-RDU not valid
PIT-MSP-PHL not valid
As long as you are connecting thru a hub it is "non-stop"
Jun 21, 2010, 12:57 pm
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Three e-mails later, here is the one I just received moments ago
"Thank you for your e-mail. We regret any misunderstanding that may have
occurred concerning our procedures.
I have forwarded you comments on to our promotions department for
clarification. It does sound like there may be some misleading
information regarding this specific offer. I wouldn't want to guess
and give you my opinion when it may not be correct. When I receive the
specific details I will be in touch...."
"Thank you for your e-mail. We regret any misunderstanding that may have
occurred concerning our procedures.
I have forwarded you comments on to our promotions department for
clarification. It does sound like there may be some misleading
information regarding this specific offer. I wouldn't want to guess
and give you my opinion when it may not be correct. When I receive the
specific details I will be in touch...."
Perhaps everyone who emails these folks should start off with something like, "Please forward my following questions to your promotions department for clarification."
Jun 21, 2010, 12:57 pm
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