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Siriusly Jun 12, 2010 6:28 pm

Class Fare Mneumonic
 
I'm a Gold Medallion, flying with Delta since 1986 and just discovered FlyerTalk.

Though I'd share this mneumonic to help me remember the hierarchy of Delta class fares:

:-: "You Brought Me Here Quietly to Kentucky: Let us Travel!" :-:

Y.B.M.H.Q.K.L.T.

[Incidentally, I'm based near CVG]


Anyone have other mneumonics they use?

MachOne Jun 12, 2010 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by Siriusly (Post 14122633)
Though I'd share this mneumonic to help me remember the hierarchy of Delta class fares:

:-: "You Brought Me Here Quietly to Kentucky: Let us Travel!" :-:

Y.B.M.H.Q.K.L.T.

Anyone have other mneumonics they use?

I think you halfway forgot the "U"

Y B M H Q K L U T

MO

SkyVillager Jun 12, 2010 8:02 pm

Welcome to FlyerTalk and the Delta Airlines Forum, Siriusly!

Thanks for posting your fun mnemonic. Seems easy to remember.

I don't have any to share, but would like to take this opportunity to tell you that we have a very cool lounge thread here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...y-welcome.html

When you have some time for a leisurely chat, come on over and tell us more about yourself and your traveling experiences.

You are very welcome to ask any questions you might have about FlyerTalk, our forums and/or life in general in that thread, without having to worry about "being new" or "staying on topic".

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rthib Jun 12, 2010 8:42 pm

Where is "S" discounted Business.

As in the way to remember fares that do not get bonuses etc.

S-L-U-T

vasantn Jun 12, 2010 9:52 pm


Originally Posted by MachOne (Post 14122685)
I think you halfway forgot the "U"

Y B M H Q K L U T

MO

I think the missing "u" ended up in "mneumonics." :D

jimrpa Jun 12, 2010 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by rthib (Post 14122950)
Where is "S" discounted Business.

As in the way to remember fares that do not get bonuses etc.

S-L-U-T

Delta's "discounted" business fares are D and I. D is slightly discounted, I is significantly discounted, with significant restrictions. Both fares are eligible for all the regular COS bonuses, etc. Other than reward fares (O), Delta does not have any published purchasable business class fares that do not qualify for the business class bonuses.

Many years ago, Delta was experimenting with a system whereby the lowest COACH fares (L, U, and T) would only qualify for 1/2 the MQMs (and mileage) of a flight. Hence, the mnemonic ".5LUT" fares came into being. ;)

LGA Jun 14, 2010 11:36 pm


Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 14123263)
Many years ago, Delta was experimenting with a system whereby the lowest COACH fares (L, U, and T) would only qualify for 1/2 the MQMs (and mileage) of a flight. Hence, the mnemonic ".5LUT" fares came into being. ;)

Ah! So it isn't an S, it's a 5... Now I get it. :) Thanks for the history lesson.

earlek Jun 14, 2010 11:57 pm

LUT
 
an ATL GA once shared with me on his version prior to my DM days and was checking on an upgrade

If you are on LUT fares no upgrades

L stands for Lots of Luck (in getting an upgrade)
U stands for Unfortunate ly - no upgrade possiblility
T stands for Tough sh..t (with respect to getting an upgrade
:D

LALAland Jun 15, 2010 1:09 am


Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 14123263)
Delta's "discounted" business fares are D and I. D is slightly discounted, I is significantly discounted, with significant restrictions. Both fares are eligible for all the regular COS bonuses, etc. Other than reward fares (O), Delta does not have any published purchasable business class fares that do not qualify for the business class bonuses.

Many years ago, Delta was experimenting with a system whereby the lowest COACH fares (L, U, and T) would only qualify for 1/2 the MQMs (and mileage) of a flight. Hence, the mnemonic ".5LUT" fares came into being. ;)

Isn't "A" a discounted FC fare as well?
"N" is the fare code for a milage award seat.
Saw a "V" fare once... I was sitting next to Kelly Osborne... got her autograph for my daughter's scapbook. She kindly signed the back of her BP. Of course I studied it and noticed no SM# (guess she doesn't care or need to keep up with her miles) and the fare code was "V", for "VIP"?

flying_q Jun 15, 2010 1:39 am


Originally Posted by LALAland (Post 14134464)
Isn't "A" a discounted FC fare as well?
"N" is the fare code for a milage award seat.
Saw a "V" fare once... I was sitting next to Kelly Osborne... got her autograph for my daughter's scapbook. She kindly signed the back of her BP. Of course I studied it and noticed no SM# (guess she doesn't care or need to keep up with her miles) and the fare code was "V", for "VIP".

Or upgraded domestic first. Odd that there was no SM number, as it was a V fare?

LALAland Jun 15, 2010 1:52 am


Originally Posted by flying_q (Post 14134517)
Or upgraded domestic first. Odd that there was no SM number, as it was a V fare?

Maybe "V" serves a duel role, IDK, but positive there was no SM# on the BP.

rthib Jun 16, 2010 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 14123263)
Delta's "discounted" business fares are D and I. D is slightly discounted, I is significantly discounted, with significant restrictions. Both fares are eligible for all the regular COS bonuses, etc. Other than reward fares (O), Delta does not have any published purchasable business class fares that do not qualify for the business class bonuses.

Many years ago, Delta was experimenting with a system whereby the lowest COACH fares (L, U, and T) would only qualify for 1/2 the MQMs (and mileage) of a flight. Hence, the mnemonic ".5LUT" fares came into being. ;)

I still stick by my original one.

From Skymiles Fare Chart:
Discounted Business: D, S, I

So, I-D S-L-U-T

jimrpa Jun 16, 2010 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by LALAland (Post 14134464)
Isn't "A" a discounted FC fare as well?
"N" is the fare code for a milage award seat.
Saw a "V" fare once... I was sitting next to Kelly Osborne... got her autograph for my daughter's scapbook. She kindly signed the back of her BP. Of course I studied it and noticed no SM# (guess she doesn't care or need to keep up with her miles) and the fare code was "V", for "VIP"?

I was speaking of BusinessElite fares (international business class). An "A" fare is a discounted first class fare. When looking at fairly high-priced coach fares (particularly Y or B), it is always prudent to check the "A" fare for a flight as well.

V isn't really a "fare" per say. It's a booking code for a complimentary upgrade from coach to "domestic" First Class (not available on flights to/from HI, except in special cases; it is available on flights to Mexico and I believe some Caribbean flights?)

jimrpa Jun 16, 2010 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by rthib (Post 14144485)
I still stick by my original one.

From Skymiles Fare Chart:
Discounted Business: D, S, I

So, I-D S-L-U-T

The Delta MQM Table indeed lists an "S" fare class as one of the First, BusinessElite or Business fare classes. I've never encountered an "S" fare on Delta before. I believe you'll find it only exists so that they can sell that fare class on another airline. For example, you won't find a "P" fare on Delta (it's usually used by airlines, such as Air France, with an international First Class). Delta only has it so that they can sell the cabin on another carrier.

Anyway, if you do a search here on Flyertalk, you'll find the history of ".5LUT" fares. I'm very knowledgable about the history of ".5LUT" as you'll find in your search :D

daringtofly Jun 16, 2010 9:34 pm

The full DL fare class list is much harder to memorize but this will be useful for recalling where you stand in the battlefield UGs, etc. Thanks!


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