The Definitive B/E Upgrade Complaint Thread
Apr 2, 2012, 8:51 am
#676
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Apr 2, 2012, 8:54 am
#677
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Some of those were SA, some were TPAC...
Apr 2, 2012, 8:56 am
#678
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Why is it that you,and others, seem to think that DL's premium cabin is only filled with nonrevs? What kind of inside information do you have to back that up with?
Sure,there are some routes certain times of the year where you will most likely find more Non revs then paying pax, but you make your statement seem like its a blanket statement.
Sure,there are some routes certain times of the year where you will most likely find more Non revs then paying pax, but you make your statement seem like its a blanket statement.
Last edited by DLATL777; Apr 2, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Apr 2, 2012, 8:56 am
#679
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You're right. On TPAC (espcially SEA<>NRT), you still sometimes get a recliner.
Apr 2, 2012, 8:56 am
#680
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Also I see you're a DL MM, so glad to see another DL loyal customer here
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Apr 2, 2012, 8:59 am
#681
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Just a datapoint: I'm looking for a Sept/Oct trip from NY to Seoul, doing a stayover in Tokyo on the way back for a few days.
UA J fare? $4500
DL J fare? $6700-9000
DL M fare? $4600
What kind of moron would pay their own money for a Delta ticket on that?
Keep in mind NOBODY is going to argue that WBC recliners >> UA J.
UA J fare? $4500
DL J fare? $6700-9000
DL M fare? $4600
What kind of moron would pay their own money for a Delta ticket on that?
Keep in mind NOBODY is going to argue that WBC recliners >> UA J.
Apr 2, 2012, 9:00 am
#682
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The J cabin, like anything else for a US based carrier, is a commodity. I don't think anyone expect DL to give it away, but they have to earn the business.
Apr 2, 2012, 9:07 am
#683
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Low blow. Sorry!
Actually 2MM. Would love to go back to DL. All they have to do is finish the fleet conversion on their J class, and then fire J. Robertson and fix SkyCentavos.
Also I see you're a DL MM, so glad to see another DL loyal customer here
Apr 2, 2012, 9:11 am
#684
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Apr 2, 2012, 9:19 am
#685
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Apr 2, 2012, 9:25 am
#686
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LOL!!!
Apr 2, 2012, 9:31 am
#687
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I bet there is a fair amount of reseach on the taste of food in the air v. on the ground. I don't think DL follows it though. When Michelle B's recipes were used for afternoon heavy hors d'oeuvres in the Atlanta E SkyClub (prior to 1/15/2010) that used to be the Business Elite Lounge, the food was great. What's served in the air is definitely not great, however.
Apr 2, 2012, 9:40 am
#688
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Apr 2, 2012, 9:49 am
#689
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Given the weekly threads I see here on DL's subpar Michelle Bernstein branded food I wouldn't exactly put money on DL winning a Pepsi Challenge.
Apr 2, 2012, 11:08 am
#690
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Delta M fares have been out of control for some time.
I moved my business elsewhere as a result of the crazy TPAC M fares. $4500 for upgradeable coach is just silly, particularly given the restrictions on availability of Z space etc. Can often buy a biz ticket outright for the same or less as the M fare. M fares to Shanghai are about double what they were two or three years ago.
If Delta can get people to pay, more power to them, but they won't be getting it from me.
As far as quality I actually find the DL flat bed offerings to be much better than the UA equivalent, and quite competitive with seats on various foreign carriers. Recliners and NWA style ski slopes, not so much.
I moved my business elsewhere as a result of the crazy TPAC M fares. $4500 for upgradeable coach is just silly, particularly given the restrictions on availability of Z space etc. Can often buy a biz ticket outright for the same or less as the M fare. M fares to Shanghai are about double what they were two or three years ago.
If Delta can get people to pay, more power to them, but they won't be getting it from me.
As far as quality I actually find the DL flat bed offerings to be much better than the UA equivalent, and quite competitive with seats on various foreign carriers. Recliners and NWA style ski slopes, not so much.