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Request for resolution from a loyal traveller
All, very sorry for the long post. Feel free to deem this one "too long to bother". (and please, no general "Delta sucks" commentary)
I'm looking for advice to get satisfactory resolution on this. After writing to Delta CEO Richard Anderson, requesting a phone call and acceptable resolution to the issue below. I've gotten an email (they refuse to call for some reason) from someone on his team, but what she offered is not what I would consider "acceptable resolution" and what she DID agree to do has not happened. Summary:
I was very diligent in validating my choice before I made it. It was logical to me that the info I was getting was correct, given that this was in print for the same award for 2010 from Delta. Delta has not offered: - any apology or acknowledgement or PHONE CALL as requested (or miles or anything) - acknowledgement that they changed the 2010 rules retroactively - executed on the promised follow-up (yet, maybe she still will) or even the inferior resolution they offered - response to my final email a week ago. Any suggestions? |
Originally Posted by bumble
(Post 13692292)
[*]Noting that the same award for the 2010 levels had the fine-print qualifier "If you are gifting Silver Status to a friend that has already achieved Silver, their status will be increased by 1 level to a maximum of Gold Medallion", I spoke to two different PM agents who conferred with each of their supervisors and said "Yes, this will apply for 2009 threshold also"
[*]Got (email) response from his person (signed Coordinator--Skymiles Program) that said "sorry you got wrong info. I'll make sure you can make a differnent choice for that threshold award. still can't gift Gold. This will be available by March 31. I will follow up with you to make sure this has happened" I was very diligent in validating my choice before I made it. It was logical to me that the info I was getting was correct, given that this was in print for the same award for 2010 from Delta. |
Hastily worded response
Seems like the reply to your inquiry was hastily written and didn't answer your questions or clearly describe what they were going to do. This has become standard practice in so many companies - you carefully compose and email only to find that the respondent didn't read it carefully or can't write meaningful english.
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Originally Posted by ffI
(Post 13692317)
Not to doubt you, but do you have any proof of the qualifier? I seem to remember reading the FAQs that this will not increase their level if they flew to achieve Silver later.
I'm not a big fan of CS going back on their promises. Worse, there are often solutions to problems that are cost neutral to companies yet CS agents either aren't smart enough to figure them out or creative enough to get them done. Good luck. |
Not to doubt you, but do you have any proof of the qualifier? I seem to remember reading the FAQs that this will not increase their level if they flew to achieve Silver later. The FAQ now explicitly says the exact opposite of the original text clarified by footnote to the 2009 silver gift award. |
check with elliott.org
Go to elliott.org and check it out -- chris elliott is an AMAZING travel correspondent who is able to help many different people in different situations. he actually has a list on his website of Delta important contacts:
http://www.elliott.org/help/delta-air-lines/ good luck and I hope this helps... |
Originally Posted by bumble
(Post 13692292)
All, very sorry for the long post. Feel free to deem this one "too long to bother". (and please, no general "Delta sucks" commentary)
I'm looking for advice to get satisfactory resolution on this. After writing to Delta CEO Richard Anderson, requesting a phone call and acceptable resolution to the issue below. I've gotten an email (they refuse to call for some reason) from someone on his team, but what she offered is not what I would consider "acceptable resolution" and what she DID agree to do has not happened. Summary:
I was very diligent in validating my choice before I made it. It was logical to me that the info I was getting was correct, given that this was in print for the same award for 2010 from Delta. Delta has not offered: - any apology or acknowledgement or PHONE CALL as requested (or miles or anything) - acknowledgement that they changed the 2010 rules retroactively - executed on the promised follow-up (yet, maybe she still will) or even the inferior resolution they offered - response to my final email a week ago. Any suggestions? 1. Send written correspondence again, return receipt requested, to Richard Andersen's office (I hate to say it, but don't expect a return phone call - at best expect a snail-mail response). You might also try sending the correspondence in some form of odd-size/shaped packaging. Maybe a box or something. Something that will stick out and be somewhat inconvenient. 2. There is also a fax number that you can find on here. I'd fax copies of the correspondence to that fax number In your correspondence, be very clear about what you're looking for Delta to do to resolve the problem, but don't try "making threats" such as "I'll begin flying Pan Am if you don't do this". I suspect that making threats will just put them into a defensive posture and they'll be less likely to try to take action for you. My own personal belief is that Delta should, as a gesture of goodwill, bite the bullet and make your friend GM, even if it turns out that you were given incorrect information multiple times. It's a one-off exception and would help alleviate a bad relationship with a SkyMiles member that they theoretically should value. Please let us know what response you get. |
I think a phone call from the CEO is a bit over the top; a written letter might come, but don't hold your breath on the letter from the CEO. As others have reiterated where in writing does it stipulate one will receive the bump...
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Good luck to the OP. It's sad to continue to see more and more of this runaround from DL. They are supposed to have a system in place to better resolve customer conflicts, and escalate them as needed.
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Originally Posted by vincentppetty
(Post 13692946)
Go to elliott.org and check it out -- chris elliott is an AMAZING travel correspondent who is able to help many different people in different situations. he actually has a list on his website of Delta important contacts:
http://www.elliott.org/help/delta-air-lines/ good luck and I hope this helps... |
Originally Posted by WBurcham
(Post 13694873)
Chris Elliott is one of the biggest jokes when it comes to "travel writers" he has a significant distaste for elite travelers. He's a blatant and absolutely annoying "populist".
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Originally Posted by WBurcham
(Post 13694873)
Chris Elliott is one of the biggest jokes when it comes to "travel writers" he has a significant distaste for elite travelers. He's a blatant and absolutely annoying "populist".
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Just to follow up on the resolution of this for those who requested I do so:
Even though I was unable to find my printout of the original version of the FAQ, Kevin from Delta researched it for me and sent me the original and "revised" versions and ultimately honored my original choice. It was a big hassle and I almost thought I had dreamed it up, AND I still think it was quite shady of Delta to make this change to the published rules. However, I appreciate Kevin following through to find the original wording. (which happens to be almost exactly as I quoted it based on memory) The July 2009 FAQ version: For gifting Medallion status, if the recipient is already a Silver or Gold Medallion member, will they receive the next tier level? How long is the status valid? If the recipient is a Silver Medallion member and you are a Diamond Medallion member, you may choose to make the recipient a Gold Medallion member. However, status will not be extended or combined to reach a level higher than Gold for those being gifted with status. The Platinum or Diamond member’s current tier expiration date at the time of gifting status will be the expiration date assigned to the gifted status. If a Platinum or Diamond re-qualifies for status, they will be able to select new benefits and may choose to gift status to the same person. Gifted status will not automatically be renewed upon Platinum or Diamond requalification. Current FAQ - March 1, 2010 FAQ version: If my recipient for gifting status is already a Medallion member, will my gift automatically bump him or her to a higher status? No. If your recipient already has the status you are attempting to gift (i.e. Silver status for a Platinum Choice Benefit and Gold status for Diamond Choice Benefit), s/he will not be bumped to a higher status. Therefore, you should select a different recipient or Choice Benefit. |
It's great that you got it resolved. I have heard great things about Kevin P. helping folk out. It's great to have a goto guy that can cut through some of the red tape to resolve things correctly.
DL has seemed to be schizophrenic of late with their changes. Take their recent changes to close in fees. No fees. Fees. No fees. Fees. What's so hard about communicating with your elites, and giving advance notice to changes. How many DL surprises have come out in the last couple of years? No advance notice at all. |
I too am glad that it got resolved. Glad that you kept on it.
Originally Posted by WBurcham
(Post 13694873)
Chris Elliott is one of the biggest jokes when it comes to "travel writers" he has a significant distaste for elite travelers. He's a blatant and absolutely annoying "populist".
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