Why am I always last?
Mar 30, 2010, 8:39 am
#16
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: DL PM, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 47
I guess I feel better now about not being on the top of the pile any more as a PM with all of these Diamonds around. Had a hell of a time (7 of 23 with 2 FC seats) getting upgraded on my ATL-PHX flight last week. Luckily I was one waiting until the final person boarded and a two FC passengers didn't make it. A little wink to the GA and score!
Mar 30, 2010, 8:46 am
#17
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 785
why would one expect to be higher on the list with the lowest of the low "T" fare --- if you want to get an upgrade as Silver, you need to buy more expensive fares, as well as find flights that aren't normally traveled -- i.e. mid-week or extremely early am Sat/Sun flights ...
Good luck!
Good luck!
As for time of ticketing, I bought these about 60 days ago.
Again, not a big deal. I just find it funny. NYC must only have PMs and GMs (and DMs).
Quick update: I'm now 8 of 8, but the available F seats went from 8 to 4. Flight is also oversold.
Mar 30, 2010, 10:04 am
#18
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: PVD, GVA, BUD
Programs: AA ExecP
Posts: 830
It's funny - back when WP and SM were still integrating, I was ALWAYS last on the UG list on the Delta Shuttle, even when I was on a full Y fare. This was the case if I was Silver, Gold or Platinum. I didn't care, as I often liked to sit in the back to deplane immediately, and be in the cab line in <2 minutes from landing at BOS. One day, I sat there for a half hour with a GA looking at everyone that was ahead of me - and in fact, I was supposed to be first on the UG list, as no one else ever had a full Y.
This was indeed an issue with my use of my WP# on the boarding pass, and issues with the integration of the two programs. Once I started using (much to my chagrin), my DL number, everything worked A-OK.
Also - at the time I was Plat with NWA and Silver with DL. If I put my DL # on the itin and credited the miles there (which I didn't want to do because of the 125% bonus on NWA), I would ALWAYS get the UG, even as a silver (although in Y fare).
This was indeed an issue with my use of my WP# on the boarding pass, and issues with the integration of the two programs. Once I started using (much to my chagrin), my DL number, everything worked A-OK.
Also - at the time I was Plat with NWA and Silver with DL. If I put my DL # on the itin and credited the miles there (which I didn't want to do because of the 125% bonus on NWA), I would ALWAYS get the UG, even as a silver (although in Y fare).
Mar 30, 2010, 10:28 am
#19
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1K (MM), DL, AA, AS, HHonors, SPG, Kimpton, Hyatt, IC PC, Marriott Titanium (LT PLT), Hertz PC
Posts: 7,231
) on the next flight out!
Mar 30, 2010, 10:50 am
#20
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SoCal (ONT), PVD/BOS, JAX, RSW
Programs: AA/US PlatPro & 1.05MM, DL Plat (challenge), UA dirt
Posts: 3,189
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Unless you are on a WAS (DCA)-ATL, in which *most* of the plane is some sort of elite...
Unless you are on a WAS (DCA)-ATL, in which *most* of the plane is some sort of elite...
Mar 30, 2010, 11:45 am
#21
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Enn Why Cee
Programs: DL, CO, LH, BA etc...
Posts: 1,570
)When I was first silver, I realized the value of my status in a standby list situation - massive cancellations in ATL due to a summer t-storm, lost of flights delayed and canceled...
I snagged the last seat on the last flight of the day to the NYC area - so I slept in my own bed rather than the terminal.
It was a middle sea t on the last row, but the priority (even when not upgraded)made a world of difference to me then...l
So, OP, you may not always fly up front, but if things turn sour, you are in a much better position than the rest of the flying public...
Mar 30, 2010, 12:50 pm
#22
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 785
Quick update - at the airport. I'm 11 of 11 for 0 avail BE seats.
Not going to take the bump. I want to get home to my own place, and I have 19C on the 757, which is a nice seat. All will be well.
(By the way, by some miraculous set of circumstances, I did get the UG to BE on the way out here, so I'm not about to complain.)
Not going to take the bump. I want to get home to my own place, and I have 19C on the 757, which is a nice seat. All will be well.
(By the way, by some miraculous set of circumstances, I did get the UG to BE on the way out here, so I'm not about to complain.)
Mar 30, 2010, 1:33 pm
#23
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - PM (Sky Priority);HH - Gold; Marriott - Silver; National - Executive; DL Reserve AMEX
Posts: 5,232
My wife and I used to be last all the time... and now we're Gold... and I am still 0-for-5 as a Gold this year. And my wife is now 0-for-6 as a Gold.
Worst. Upgrade. Luck. Ever.
Worst. Upgrade. Luck. Ever.
Mar 30, 2010, 1:39 pm
#24
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
Mar 30, 2010, 4:23 pm
#26
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: MLB
Programs: DL - KM DM, DL 1.57 MM, UA - 1P, AA - EXP HH - Diamond, PC - Platinum, SPG - Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 887
Should have been with me on my MCO-BOS flight today. Flew with 5 empty F seats. They were trying to sell them for $100 each...no takers.
Mar 30, 2010, 4:49 pm
#28
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: DAB
Programs: DL PM UA PSilver Marriott Lifetime Plat, AMEX Platinum, Avis PC, UA MPPPlus
Posts: 961
I got an upgrade last week as a FO on a T fare, and also one on a B fare. I also didn't get upgraded on one T fare and one B fare. I'm 2 for 4 possible segments this year. Each time there were other folks behind me on the upgrade list.
Mar 30, 2010, 6:38 pm
#29
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 134
You are very low on the pecking order. Also, an FO on a T fare that has checked-in before you is higher than you. [Correction: At time of ticketing not check-in time] From cwsi.net/mupc.aspx
Your rank is lower than:
DM | Y
DM | Amex | B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T
DM | B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T
.
Your rank is lower than:
DM | Y
DM | Amex | B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T
DM | B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T
.
Mar 30, 2010, 6:41 pm
#30
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL
Programs: DL PM, HH Diamond, Fairmont Prem, SPG Gold, Priority Club Plat/IC Amb, AmEx Plat
Posts: 10,839
DL Reserve gives you priority within your Medallion level and Fare Class.