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DL 2010 International overview (as of 25FEB10)

DL 2010 International overview (as of 25FEB10)

Old Feb 25, 10, 5:39 pm
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DL 2010 International overview (as of 10MAR10)

NEW UPDATE as of 13MAR10
http://airlineroute.net/2010/03/12/dl-s10intl-update6

Most changes goes in effect 11JUN10 to 31AUG10.

Atlanta - Tel Aviv Service once again reduced to 5 - 6 weekly, from 14JUL10 to 16SEP10
Atlanta - Tokyo Narita Planned Increase from 7 to 10 weekly from 01JUN10, canceled
Los Angeles - Tokyo Narita Planned Increase from 7 to 11 weekly from 01JUN10, canceled

Tokyo Narita - Bangkok Daily Service, instead of 6 weekly (3 332 + 4 333)
Tokyo Narita - Seoul Incheon 4 weekly 757, 2 weekly A330-200, 1 weekly 767 (till 30AUG10, then Daily 757)
Tokyo Narita - Shanghai 6 weekly 747-400, 1 weekly 767 (till 30AUG10, then Daily 747-400)
Tokyo Narita - Singapore Daily service, 777-200LR replace A330-200 (including September and onward)
Tokyo Narita - Taipei 4 weekly A330-200, 3 weekly 757-200 (till 31AUG10, then Daily 757)


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Updated as of 10MAR10
http://airlineroute.net/2010/03/10/dl-s10intl-update5/

New Changes....
Atlanta - Tel Aviv going back to Daily (was 5-6 weekly variation)
Detroit - Nagoya - Manila Now back to 6 weekly, was planned Daily
Tokyo - Shanghai, Tokyo - Taipei aircraft changes

Again, there are possible further changes expected, in particular to those who noted the inventory showing Zero on some flights and days.


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Updated as of 27FEB10
http://airlineroute.net/2010/02/26/dl-s10-update4/

Atlanta - Caracas A330-200 replace 767-400ER from 01JUN10 to 31JUL10
Atlanta - Dubai Daily 777-200LR (Was -200ER/-200LR)
Atlanta - Frankfurt Boeing 777-200LR instead of -200ER from 07APR10 to 31AUG10
Atlanta - Georgetown Bahamas NEW 2 weekly service from 13JUN10
DL5607 ATL1055 - 1317GGT CRJ 37
DL5606 GGT1400 - 1634ATL CRJ 37

Atlanta - Lagos Reduce from Daily to 6 weekly
Atlanta - London Gatwick
06APR10 - 30APR10 767-300ER
01MAY10 - 31MAY10 A330-200
01JUN10 - 31JUL10 767-400ER
01AUG10 - 30SEP10 A330-200

Atlanta - Tel Aviv
03JUL10 - 22AUG10 Reduce from 6 to 5 weekly
23AUG10 - 08SEP10 Daily
09SEP10 - 5 Weekly

Boston - Amsterdam Seasonal DL266/267 767-300ER replace A330-200
Detroit - Nagoya - Manila 01JUN10 - 30AUG10 Increase from 5 weekly to Daily (was 6 weekly)
Honolulu - Tokyo Narita Peak season capacity change from 01JUN10
DL611/638 744 Day 146 333 Day X146
DL623/624 767 Day x14 (was 4 weekly 332/333)
DL647/646 744 Daily

New York JFK - Barcelona 767-400ER operating (Was -300ER)
New York JFK - Bogota Daily (was 5 weekly)
New York JFK - Dublin 767-400ER replace -300ER
New York JFK - Kiev 767-300ER replace -400ER
San Francisco - Tokyo Narita Boeing 767-300ER replace A330-200 eff 01JUN10
Tokyo Narita - Bangkok Airbus A330 variant changes eff 31MAY10
-30MAY10 332 Day x5
31MAY10 - 31AUG10332 Day 237 333 Day 146
01SEP10 - 333 Day x5

Tokyo Narita - Shanghai Pu Dong Aircraft change, A330-200 replace 744 during peak summer
28MAR10 - 10JUN10 / 22AUG10 - 744
11JUN10 - 21AUG10 332

Tokyo Narita - Taipei Capacity Change
16MAY10 - 31MAY10 757 Day x27 332 Day 27
01JUN10 - 09JUN10 757 Daily
10JUN10 - 30AUG10 757 Day x14 767 Day 14
31AUG10 - 757 Daily




Below was as of 25FEB10

I've compiled the complete list (might left out 1 or 2 which I hope not) of DELTA's 2010 Summer International operation, Caribbean and Mexico excluded.

Entire list can be found here (along with other US Biggies)
http://airlineroute.net/2010/02/25/dl-s10-update3/

Latest and upcoming change as of 25FEB10:
  • Atlanta - Caracas to be changed to A330-200 (notified earlier this week of this change)
  • Beijing is all 767
  • Tokyo - Shanghai is 747-400
  • Reduction to 6 weekly for both Bangkok and Singapore
  • In the list, the flight numbers are specified to reflect the post-DL/NW merger changes

Last edited by jimyvr; Mar 13, 10 at 12:10 am Reason: updated info
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Old Feb 25, 10, 6:16 pm
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MNL-NGO-NRT seems to be missing?
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Old Feb 25, 10, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog View Post
MNL-NGO-NRT seems to be missing?
No, it's DTW - NGO - MNL same flight number.

NRT - MNL is separate.
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Old Feb 25, 10, 6:42 pm
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so ATL-NRT is 777LR and JFK-NRT is 744??
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Old Feb 25, 10, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by jiml1126 View Post
No, it's DTW - NGO - MNL same flight number.
Interesting.

ATL-AMS-BOM seems to be the only other flight that's listed in this manner. With the old NW flight numbers, most flights to NRT continued on to other destinations. e.g. NW5 was PDX-NRT-SIN.
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Old Feb 25, 10, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Osakaboy View Post
so ATL-NRT is 777LR and JFK-NRT is 744??
DL last fall announced both JFK NRT and JFK TLV is to be 747-400 starting this summer.
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I wish it was possible to have such information confired earlier as I purchase international tickets months before departure.
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Old Feb 25, 10, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
I wish it was possible to have such information confired earlier as I purchase international tickets months before departure.
It's impossible because they change it literally every week, especially the DL-NW merger was a big headache when I do these changes.

In general, summer schedule are finalized around mid-February and winter around mid-September
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Old Feb 25, 10, 10:59 pm
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Thanks for posting. Very wonderful and informative.

I thought San Francisco-Tokyo was going 767 this summer. Or did this get reversed?
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I'm still seeing SFO-NRT switching to a 767-300 on June 1. Looks like an error on the blog entry.
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Old Feb 26, 10, 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by timf View Post
I'm still seeing SFO-NRT switching to a 767-300 on June 1. Looks like an error on the blog entry.
Just posted the updates as of 27FEB10 which involved in other changes in the main thread
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Old Feb 27, 10, 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by jiml1126 View Post
Just posted the updates as of 27FEB10 which involved in other changes in the main thread
Also don't forget DL has already been reinstates more route SLC-NRT during in the summer seasonally.
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Old Feb 27, 10, 10:02 am
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Can someone tell me when does Delta typically release any seats and start selling tickets for summer flights?

Now still for a lot of flights inventory is totally zero'ed out (every single class is "0" and not bookable on delta.com or any third party booking engine or by any travel agent), though the flights are scheduled and are currently 90-99% empty I estimate (e.g. on some such flights looking at seat map all empty, on some may be just one or two seats occupied of the whole 747).

No other airline seems to have this practice to have flights scheduled, yet still just a few months out, not even start selling seats to anyone for any price. (The only seats occupied on these are sold by NW before they become DL flights, which is when the inventory became zero'ed out and has stayed that way since.) Only DL. What's the logic (if any) behind it?

Specifically for this I checked these 2 x daily + 4 x weekly flights in August,

Originally Posted by jiml1126 View Post
Honolulu - Tokyo Narita Peak season capacity change from 01JUN10
DL611/638 744 Day 146 333 Day X146
DL623/624 767 Day x14 (was 4 weekly 332/333)
DL647/646 744 Daily
Load up in one window http://www.delta.com/schedules/trave...ched/index.jsp
and in second http://www.delta.com/schedules/trave...ched/index.jsp

I looked at this in August, but it also seems to be the case in months prior and later (at last when I checked on this before).

Let's take August 12th as the first date:

Aug 12th, scheduled HNL-NRT:
Carrier Flight # Depart Arrive Equipment Type Stops Flight Time Time/Date Airport Time/Date Airport
Delta 0611 10:15am 12 Aug 2010 HNL 1:15pm 13 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00
Delta 0647 1:35pm 12 Aug 2010 HNL 4:35pm 13 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00

Aug 12th: neither flight available for booking (revenue or award), not on delta.com, not on expedia.com, orbtiz.com, travelocity.com, or any other booking engine. Per DL reservations: "the flight is scheduled, but there are no seats available in any class for both of the flights" - which is pretty much impossible for a flight as far out as Aug (hence why I am checking on this then). delta.com only spits out options via LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA, SLC, etc... but no direct flights, neither one of two this day.

Aug 13th, scheduled HNL-NRT:
Carrier Flight # Depart Arrive Equipment Type Stops Flight Time Time/Date Airport Time/Date Airport
Delta 0611 10:15am 13 Aug 2010 HNL 1:15pm 14 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00
Delta 0623 10:45am 13 Aug 2010 HNL 2:00pm 14 Aug 2010 NRT Airbus Industrie A330-300 0 08:15
Delta 0647 1:35pm 13 Aug 2010 HNL 4:35pm 14 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00

Aug 13th: just DL 623 available, but not the other two.

Aug 14th, scheduled HNL-NRT:
Carrier Flight # Depart Arrive Equipment Type Stops Flight Time Time/Date Airport Time/Date Airport
Delta 0611 10:15am 14 Aug 2010 HNL 1:15pm 15 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00
Delta 0647 1:35pm 14 Aug 2010 HNL 4:35pm 15 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00

Aug 14th: neither flight available for booking (revenue or award), not on delta.com, not on expedia.com, orbtiz.com, travelocity.com, or any other booking engine.

Aug 15th, scheduled HNL-NRT:
Carrier Flight # Depart Arrive Equipment Type Stops Flight Time Time/Date Airport Time/Date Airport
Delta 0611 10:15am 15 Aug 2010 HNL 1:15pm 16 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00
Delta 0623 10:45am 15 Aug 2010 HNL 2:00pm 16 Aug 2010 NRT Airbus Industrie A330-200 0 08:15
Delta 0647 1:35pm 15 Aug 2010 HNL 4:35pm 16 Aug 2010 NRT Boeing 747-400 Passenger 0 08:00

Aug 15th: again just DL 623 available

...and it goes so on and on.

What's up with this? Why is DL, unlike all other airlines, not releasing seats on its summer int'l flights and having them scheduled yet 90-99% empty and refusing to sell a seat at any price? Is that common? When does DL typically start releasing seats for its summer flights?
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Old Feb 27, 10, 2:04 pm
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What's up with this? Why is DL, unlike all other airlines, not releasing seats on its summer int'l flights and having them scheduled yet 90-99% empty and refusing to sell a seat at any price? Is that common? When does DL typically start releasing seats for its summer flights?
I've been trying to book a client on an HNL-NRT flight (any airline) and have run into similar issues. My guess is that that market is treated in a special manner, and most seats probably get allocated to travel agents in Japan.
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Originally Posted by jiml1126 View Post

Tokyo Narita - Shanghai Pu Dong Aircraft change, A330-200 replace 744 during peak summer
28MAR10 - 10JUN10 / 22AUG10 - 744
11JUN10 - 21AUG10 332
Looks like aircraft types are still changing. I have a NRT-PVG segment in late June. When I booked, it was 744. It changed to A330, but recently changed back to 744.
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