Adsurd post merger fares
#1
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Adsurd post merger fares
Anyone else noticing outrageous fares since the merger is now more iron clad? As an example, pre-merger fares from DTW-LGA would be had sub $300 even in the 7-14 day out window. Now, DTW-LGA is $921 over one month out.
I am not naive that on this route Delta now has less competition, but IMO the merger is shooting itself in the foot.
DTW-YYZ is another rate bend-over.
Any other routes this is happening on?
c|d
I am not naive that on this route Delta now has less competition, but IMO the merger is shooting itself in the foot.
DTW-YYZ is another rate bend-over.
Any other routes this is happening on?
c|d
#2
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I just bought a transcon ticket 6 days out for less than $250 roundtrip. I've found that fares have gone down on many of the routes that I fly. It was so ridiculously low that I had a good laugh.
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#5
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I don't think I ever saw a fare under 1000 for JFK > YYZ and the only time I make that flight is when someone else is paying for it.
I just did, JFK > MAD and BCN > JFK for under $580
I have a JFK > LAX flight coming up round trip under 250 coming up.
I just did, JFK > MAD and BCN > JFK for under $580
I have a JFK > LAX flight coming up round trip under 250 coming up.
#7
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Michigan, DL Platinum, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Gold
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I'm tending to see fares that are sometimes a little unreasonsible (IMHO) depending on where you want to fly. For example, checking DTW-AMS flights with flexible dates over the next few months I'm seeing coach tickets for anywhere between $1200 and $1500 dollars even though the flights show wide open on the seat map. Granted, I'm a hub captive but these flights were running around $400-$500 and sometimes cheaper depending on the dates.
Another thing I've noted post-merger is that even though DTW is considered a hub I rarely see fare sales listed out of DTW for Delta flights. They may be there and I'm just missing them but everything I see is usually out of either ATL or JFK. It seems like the former NW hubs (DTW/MSP/MEM) are being left out of any fare sales for the most part. DL may think that they have a lock on these markets but I'd be willing to jump to another carrier and make a connection if it would save me several hundred dollars. BTW - the latest email I got for a "fare sale" from DTW was one line - DTW-CVG for @$100 RT.
Another thing I've noted post-merger is that even though DTW is considered a hub I rarely see fare sales listed out of DTW for Delta flights. They may be there and I'm just missing them but everything I see is usually out of either ATL or JFK. It seems like the former NW hubs (DTW/MSP/MEM) are being left out of any fare sales for the most part. DL may think that they have a lock on these markets but I'd be willing to jump to another carrier and make a connection if it would save me several hundred dollars. BTW - the latest email I got for a "fare sale" from DTW was one line - DTW-CVG for @$100 RT.
#8
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Anyone else noticing outrageous fares since the merger is now more iron clad? As an example, pre-merger fares from DTW-LGA would be had sub $300 even in the 7-14 day out window. Now, DTW-LGA is $921 over one month out.
I am not naive that on this route Delta now has less competition, but IMO the merger is shooting itself in the foot.
DTW-YYZ is another rate bend-over.
Any other routes this is happening on?
c|d
I am not naive that on this route Delta now has less competition, but IMO the merger is shooting itself in the foot.
DTW-YYZ is another rate bend-over.
Any other routes this is happening on?
c|d
Last week they started selling T fares for $170 and I bought as bunch of them.
The problem for you is less than 3 nights and you cant get discounted fares.
#9
Join Date: Jan 2010
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I have trouble getting the Delta system to route me through Amsterdam for European flights from Minneapolis. I often have to do a multicity search (e.g., MSP-AMS-BCN) to get the options to show up rather than being routed through Atlanta or JFK. And fares have been higher than typical.
#10
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I or my wife fly dtw-lga about every weekend. Since September we have been paying $300-$350 rt with only U fares being available.
Last week they started selling T fares for $170 and I bought as bunch of them.
The problem for you is less than 3 nights and you cant get discounted fares.
Last week they started selling T fares for $170 and I bought as bunch of them.
The problem for you is less than 3 nights and you cant get discounted fares.
#11
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Airfare, in real terms, has been in a long-term downward trend for decades. Should this trend reverse, I don't see anything "outrageous" about it. Delta is a for-profit entity, not a charity nor a public operation that is obligated to give people what they want. Instead, they are motivated to make their services as appealing as possible, but through market/profit incentives only.
#12
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Yes but it really has to do with the length or Saturday stay. Here are the discounted fare rules.
BEGIN TVL MON/TUE/WED/THU/SUN
RETURN AFTER 3 DAYS AFTER
DEPARTURE FROM ORIGIN
BEGIN TVL FRI/SAT RETURN FIRST SUNDAY AFTER
DEPARTURE FROM ORIGIN
FURTHER RESTR APPLY SEE TEXT RULE
BEGIN TVL MON/TUE/WED/THU/SUN
RETURN AFTER 3 DAYS AFTER
DEPARTURE FROM ORIGIN
BEGIN TVL FRI/SAT RETURN FIRST SUNDAY AFTER
DEPARTURE FROM ORIGIN
FURTHER RESTR APPLY SEE TEXT RULE
#13
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,630
Everyone in the world knows (Except governments) that mergers. alliances, restricted slots and ATI RAISE FARE and reduce competition. Exception is when a low cost airline competes on the same route.
Last edited by zman; Feb 24, 2010 at 1:36 pm