New PU503 rules
 

PU503 (Platinum System-Wide Upgrade cert) rules:

https://www.nwa.com/NWAExtras/displa...58D70DB0B13E4D

Now with Delta logo and some terms changed (used to be booking classes R, U, now is only Z, still good for KL and DL flights, etc..).

Can anyone translate the airlines they're valid on into a human-readable list: ;)

Why aren't these valid on Air France? Doesn't Air France own KLM?

Good grief, and we whine about the issues with Northwest integration into Delta.

Interesting... in a way, this is great; we can now more easily check fare class inventory. I wonder which is typically greater, U or Z?

Ooops, guess I was wrong. NW used Z as discount business, but that isn't a revenue fare that DL uses (the equivalent is I, I believe).

What about KL flight on KL ticket stock? SOL?

Looks like they just cut and pasted the old PMU rules and added KLM for the time being.

Standard Delta PMU stipulations.

K and above for Domestic, Caribbean and Mexico.

M and above for international

Must be a Delts issued ticket.

The carriers are Delta and KLM, (the others listed are Connection carriers).

The no same day upgrade (actually minimum 48 hour advance limitation) is still in the rules.


"Upgrade must be redeemed at least 48 hours (in Asia, including Japan, as well as Micronesia, allow 3 working days) before the originating flight departure via DL Reservations. Call DL Reservations and advise the agent that you are redeeming this upgrade certificate (Reservations Direct Ticketing Charge will not apply if you already have a coach class e-ticket). In the U.S. and Canada, call 800-221-1212. In Japan, call 0120-120-747 or 0476-31-8000. In all other countries, please contact your local DL Reservations office. "

I would expect new rules to roll out by March 1.

This looks like just a stop gap with the disappearance of the old NWA booking classes.

We want clean, easy to use SWU's at SOME level for the Skymiles program that do not have complicated restrictions and high fares to use!!!

A big loyalty incentive...

You got a mouse in your pocket? (or are you just happy to see me?).:)

In the past, NW PU 503 and miles upgrades into WBC required one bucket for M and restricted B fares but another, much more IME available, bucket for unrestricted B and full Y fares. So the change requiring Z availability now seems bad. A few times I did get my upgrade at the time of booking by paying slightly more for the B fare. It was a nice option to have.

Can someone wiser than me advise me and the rest of FT'ers, what does the upgrade far class change mean?

It is still Z for Business Class (Int'l) how it used to be on Delta, but it is now V - not G anymore, how it was on Delta - for First class (domestic).

Is this a good thing? Bad? Or just G class is being renamed to V come tomorrow (so all the same, just a letter change and nothing more)?

And is it that finally this year (2010) DL will issue PU503s - actual Electronic Platinum System-Wide Upgrade Certificates - and be done with the backwards, decade+ outdated mess of doing it as pieces of paper without proper online redemption status?

Is there any place to view Z availability?

Expertflyer.com or KVS

Isn't it that KVS doesn't have the upgrade fare classes (only has award, but not PMU upgrade, fare classes)?

My PMU's are still PMU's - pretty much useless.

International Travel: Certificate may be used to upgrade only on published coach fares booked in:
Y, B or M class. Certificate may not be used to upgrade other published coach fares including Q, L, H, U, T, or K class.

Still only useful for wrapping fish or training kittens. :td:

I should be thankful I get to choose a consolation prize this year instead. Yay. :(

Oh well, more $ for AA, in all fare classes.

Does Hawaii need to booked in M to use these, or does K work for it?
It is North America, but I know that they treat it as an exception for automatic upgrades, so I don't know which fare class to book.
As I look at the price difference between K and M, it probably makes sense to book M for use with the SWU's to get the 150% MQM's, but I would still like to know what is required.