dehubbing speculation starting in 2010
Since DL and NWA will be operating under a single operating certificate starting Jan 1. They are a great many hubs in the new Delta system. Which ones if any do you think will be closed
Atlanta Minneapolis Saint Paul Memphis Salt Lake CVG New York JFK Detroit and i think Toyko is considered a hub under the northwest system as well as Amsterdam That would be 9 potential hubs. I highly doubt all of them will continue to operate as hubs. I think cvg will be closed as a hub MEM will grow. Dtw will be more of a third tier hub and msp will remain as a hub, but hey thats just what i am thinking will happen. Sorry i forget the Atlanta megahub will be as crazy as ever and SLC will stay about the same |
CVG is already being dehubbed and will continue in 2010. MEM will probably see reductions as well.
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I have heard that MEM will be retained as hub and possible grow
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Atlanta - no big changes,
MSP - continue as a domestic hub, less international flights MEM - smaller domestic/caribbean/mexico hub - "reliever" for ATL SLC - no big changes JFK/LGA - increased hub status; increase access to EU CVG - my vote for most likely to be downgraded to focus city DTW - primary int'l access point to asian sites, continue as a domestic hub International: NRT - if JAL joins, increased traffic AMS - no major change CDG - no major change |
DL has a contractual obligation with MSP. While they could downsize some of the metal, they have to retain the total number of flights.
CVG is going to take a big hit. NRT depends on JL. MEM is wait and see. |
Dehub ATL?
From your lips to God's ears... |
MEM fits in better than CVG since they receive less ice and snow and they have added some more Texas flights there to make up for the loss of CO to star alliance.
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Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
(Post 13088873)
Dehub ATL?
From your lips to God's ears... SLC - remains Western hub, INTL unclear DTW, MSP - status quo until enough time passes for pre-merger promises to be forgiven/forgotten, then at least one will be reduced JFK - continue as INTL GW - traffic will vary with global commerce. CVG - bye MEM - short term okay, 5 year plan - does STL look familiar? CDG - one could only hope a reduction is planned, but to where? AMS - depends on ST relationship changes and global commerce NRT - crystal ball is cloudy, also depends on global commerce trends |
Originally Posted by bwhite
(Post 13089070)
Each to their own but ATL is a very easy hub to transit through, much more so that DTW or MSP. But no fears StayingHomeIsBetter, ATL will not be dehubbed for a very, very long time.
SLC - remains Western hub, INTL unclear DTW, MSP - status quo until enough time passes for pre-merger promises to be forgiven/forgotten, then at least one will be reduced JFK - continue as INTL GW - traffic will vary with global commerce. CVG - bye MEM - short term okay, 5 year plan - does STL look familiar? CDG - one could only hope a reduction is planned, but to where? AMS - depends on ST relationship changes and global commerce NRT - crystal ball is cloudy, also depends on global commerce trends |
Originally Posted by bkmn
(Post 13088823)
Atlanta - no big changes,
MSP - continue as a domestic hub, less international flights MEM - smaller domestic/caribbean/mexico hub - "reliever" for ATL SLC - no big changes JFK/LGA - increased hub status; increase access to EU CVG - my vote for most likely to be downgraded to focus city DTW - primary int'l access point to asian sites, continue as a domestic hub International: NRT - if JAL joins, increased traffic AMS - no major change CDG - no major change -RM |
Originally Posted by bwhite
(Post 13089070)
Each to their own but ATL is a very easy hub to transit through, much more so that DTW or MSP. But no fears StayingHomeIsBetter, ATL will not be dehubbed for a very, very long time.
SLC - remains Western hub, INTL unclear DTW, MSP - status quo until enough time passes for pre-merger promises to be forgiven/forgotten, then at least one will be reduced JFK - continue as INTL GW - traffic will vary with global commerce. CVG - bye MEM - short term okay, 5 year plan - does STL look familiar? CDG - one could only hope a reduction is planned, but to where? AMS - depends on ST relationship changes and global commerce NRT - crystal ball is cloudy, also depends on global commerce trends |
Delta has announced new flights from DTW to Hong Kong and Seoul starting in 2010. Why would they announce these flights and where will they get their feed if they start pulling down DTW??
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Originally Posted by manneca
(Post 13089150)
I guess to each his/her own, but DTW is so much easier and nicer than ATL. MSP is nicer but the layout is a bit strange. ATL is crowded, dirty and noisy (and I'm not even talking about the SkyClubs or whatever they call them now which are totally awful.) The DTW lounges are nice, light, airy.
Personally I want a hub to be easy to get from gate A to gate B regardless of where they are physically located, both DTW and MSP fail in this regard, IMHO. |
Have you been to CVG lately? Im not sure what Delta has there could even be called a hub. Its embarrassing.
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Originally Posted by lucycan
(Post 13089274)
Have you been to CVG lately? Im not sure what Delta has there could even be called a hub. Its embarrassing.
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