The Definitive "How To Search for Low Tier Business Awards"
Dec 7, 2011, 5:23 pm
#676
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Dec 7, 2011, 9:29 pm
#678
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I really need help, can someone please check KVS for me. I can't install it because I only have a Mac and don't have the other software needed to emulate KVS on my Mac.
I am looking for MSP-BCN June 6th, 2012 returning June 22nd, 2012 (For TWO people)
I want business class for the outbound over the water leg, with an economy return.
My dates are flexible, I can leave on June 5, 6, 7, or 8, 2012. I can return on June 22, 23 or 24, 2012.
I don't care what the routing is, as long as I can get Business Class on the outbound over the water.
I am also willing to do open jaw (ex. fly into AMS, LHR or CDG, others?, and fly out of BCN on the return).
My biggest concern is just getting the business class on the outbound, oh and did I mention I want to do this all at the 95,000 mile level per person?
I really appreciate the help!!
I am looking for MSP-BCN June 6th, 2012 returning June 22nd, 2012 (For TWO people)
I want business class for the outbound over the water leg, with an economy return.
My dates are flexible, I can leave on June 5, 6, 7, or 8, 2012. I can return on June 22, 23 or 24, 2012.
I don't care what the routing is, as long as I can get Business Class on the outbound over the water.
I am also willing to do open jaw (ex. fly into AMS, LHR or CDG, others?, and fly out of BCN on the return).
My biggest concern is just getting the business class on the outbound, oh and did I mention I want to do this all at the 95,000 mile level per person?
I really appreciate the help!!
Dec 7, 2011, 9:51 pm
#679
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I really need help, can someone please check KVS for me. I can't install it because I only have a Mac and don't have the other software needed to emulate KVS on my Mac.
I am looking for MSP-BCN June 6th, 2012 returning June 22nd, 2012 (For TWO people)
I want business class for the outbound over the water leg, with an economy return.
My dates are flexible, I can leave on June 5, 6, 7, or 8, 2012. I can return on June 22, 23 or 24, 2012.
I don't care what the routing is, as long as I can get Business Class on the outbound over the water.
I am also willing to do open jaw (ex. fly into AMS, LHR or CDG, others?, and fly out of BCN on the return).
I am looking for MSP-BCN June 6th, 2012 returning June 22nd, 2012 (For TWO people)
I want business class for the outbound over the water leg, with an economy return.
My dates are flexible, I can leave on June 5, 6, 7, or 8, 2012. I can return on June 22, 23 or 24, 2012.
I don't care what the routing is, as long as I can get Business Class on the outbound over the water.
I am also willing to do open jaw (ex. fly into AMS, LHR or CDG, others?, and fly out of BCN on the return).
[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:
MSP Minneapolis St Paul Intl MN US [KMSP] AMS Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM] MON 04 Jun 2012 | 2 Seats Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------ DL 244 MSP 21:45 AMS 13:05 +1 763 0 CS+ YM+ DL 258 MSP 15:10 AMS 06:25 +1 333 0 CM+ YA+ DL 264 MSP 19:25 AMS 10:45 +1 333 0 CM+ YM+ DL 2014 MSP 15:30 DTW 18:14 753 0 FM+ YA+ -> DL 234 DTW 19:15 AMS 09:05 +1 333 0 CM+ YA+ DL 1734 MSP 11:30 DTW 14:20 M88 0 FM+ YA+ -> DL 252 DTW 16:15 AMS 05:55 +1 333 0 CM+ YA+ DL 887 MSP 17:30 DTW 20:25 320 0 FM+ YM+ -> DL 248 DTW 22:15 AMS 12:00 +1 763 0 CM+ YM+ DL/CP 5802 MSP 13:00 EWR 16:53 E75 0 FM+ YA+ -> DL 56 EWR 18:10 AMS 07:50 +1 763 0 CM+ YA+ DL 883 MSP 13:15 DTW 16:03 757 0 FM+ YA+ -> DL 619 DTW 18:05 AMS 08:05 +1 333 0 CM+ YA+ DL 881 MSP 10:15 DTW 13:01 320 0 FM+ -> DL 252 DTW 16:15 AMS 05:55 +1 333 0 CM+ DL 30 MSP 10:15 JFK 14:02 M88 0 CM+ YM+ -> DL 70 JFK 16:05 AMS 06:00 +1 763 0 CM+ YM+ DL 883 MSP 13:15 DTW 16:03 757 0 FM+ -> DL 234 DTW 19:15 AMS 09:05 +1 333 0 CM+ DL 2014 MSP 15:30 DTW 18:14 753 0 FM+ YM+ -> DL 248 DTW 22:15 AMS 12:00 +1 763 0 CM+ YM+ DL 1734 MSP 11:30 DTW 14:20 M88 0 FM+ -> DL 619 DTW 18:05 AMS 08:05 +1 333 0 CM+ DL 2198 MSP 08:45 DTW 11:25 320 0 FM+ -> DL 252 DTW 16:15 AMS 05:55 +1 333 0 CM+ DL 1734 MSP 11:30 DTW 14:20 M88 0 FM+ -> DL 234 DTW 19:15 AMS 09:05 +1 333 0 CM+ DL/CP 5782 MSP 10:00 EWR 13:48 E75 0 FM+ -> DL 56 EWR 18:10 AMS 07:50 +1 763 0 CM+ DL 881 MSP 10:15 DTW 13:01 320 0 FM+ -> DL 619 DTW 18:05 AMS 08:05 +1 333 0 CM+ DL 883 MSP 13:15 DTW 16:03 757 0 FM+ YM+ -> DL 248 DTW 22:15 AMS 12:00 +1 763 0 CM+ YM+ DL 881 MSP 10:15 DTW 13:01 320 0 FM+ -> DL 234 DTW 19:15 AMS 09:05 +1 333 0 CM+ DL/9E 3541 MSP 07:05 JFK 10:49 CR9 0 FM+ -> DL 70 JFK 16:05 AMS 06:00 +1 763 0 CM+ DL 848 MSP 13:20 BOS 17:11 320 0 YM+ -> DL 266 BOS 19:00 AMS 08:10 +1 763 0 YM+ DL 240 MSP 10:15 ATL 13:56 738 0 YM+ -> DL 174 ATL 15:10 AMS 05:55 +1 332 0 YM+ DL 818 MSP 10:00 BOS 13:50 M90 0 YM+ -> DL 230 BOS 17:05 AMS 06:00 +1 333 0 YM+ DL 240 MSP 10:15 ATL 13:56 738 0 YM+ -> DL 238 ATL 17:20 AMS 08:15 +1 333 0 YM+ DL 818 MSP 10:00 BOS 13:50 M90 0 YM+ -> DL 266 BOS 19:00 AMS 08:10 +1 763 0 YM+ DL 808 MSP 07:00 BOS 10:50 320 0 YM+ -> DL 230 BOS 17:05 AMS 06:00 +1 333 0 YM+ DL 1734 MSP 11:30 DTW 14:20 M88 0 YM+ -> DL 248 DTW 22:15 AMS 12:00 +1 763 0 YM+ DL 808 MSP 07:00 BOS 10:50 320 0 YM+ -> DL 266 BOS 19:00 AMS 08:10 +1 763 0 YM+ DL 881 MSP 10:15 DTW 13:01 320 0 YM+ -> DL 248 DTW 22:15 AMS 12:00 +1 763 0 YM+
Code:
AMS Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM] BCN Barcelona ES [LEBL] TUE 05 Jun 2012 | 2 Seats Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------ KL 1665 AMS 07:55 BCN 10:05 CX- YA+ KL 1671 AMS 10:05 BCN 12:15 CX- YA+ KL 1673 AMS 12:50 BCN 15:05 CX- YA+ KL 1677 AMS 17:10 BCN 19:25 CS+ YS+ KL 1681 AMS 20:35 BCN 22:45 CX- YS+ AF 1241 AMS 09:30 CDG 10:45 CX- YA+ -> AF 1648 CDG 12:55 BCN 14:35 AF 1341 AMS 10:45 CDG 12:00 CX- YA+ -> AF 1648 CDG 12:55 BCN 14:35 AZ 107 AMS 13:00 FCO 15:10 CS+ YS+ -> AZ 76 FCO 16:05 BCN 17:55 AF 1641 AMS 13:55 CDG 15:10 CX- YS+ -> AF 2048 CDG 17:50 BCN 19:30 AF 1741 AMS 15:20 CDG 16:35 CX- YA+ -> AF 2048 CDG 17:50 BCN 19:30 AF 1741 AMS 15:20 CDG 16:35 CS+ YA+ -> AF 2148 CDG 19:05 BCN 20:45 AZ 109 AMS 17:10 FCO 19:25 CS+ YS+ -> AZ 78 FCO 21:30 BCN 23:20 AZ 111 AMS 18:25 FCO 20:40 CS+ YS+ -> AZ 78 FCO 21:30 BCN 23:20
Dec 7, 2011, 10:11 pm
#680
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[QUOTE=KVS;17587092]In case you can leave a day earlier, there are 2 C seats available to AMS
Thanks so much, so what does the C class stand for? How many round trip miles will that be then to fly through AMS in business and return from BCN in coach?
Also, delta.com doesn't show me the AMS routing so would I have to call then and ask for this specific routing?
Thanks so much, so what does the C class stand for? How many round trip miles will that be then to fly through AMS in business and return from BCN in coach?
Also, delta.com doesn't show me the AMS routing so would I have to call then and ask for this specific routing?
Dec 8, 2011, 7:27 am
#681
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C is Business, Y is Economy:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_SkyTeam
It would be 50K SM for the outbound + 35K for the return (per PAX).
Correct.
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_SkyTeam
Correct.
Dec 8, 2011, 5:33 pm
#682
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Not necessarily. Try using multi-city on DL.dumb, putting in the exact stops you're going for on the exact dates. Calling should also work. You should also be aware that US-Europe can be pretty easily searched using the FlyingBlue engine, so no need to worry about KVS.
Dec 8, 2011, 6:54 pm
#683
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No need to worry, indeed, as we are pleased to welcome MSP_Monopoly as a new KVS Tool member.
Glad you were able to install the KVS Tool on your Mac!
Dec 10, 2011, 3:40 pm
#684
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Just book an award in Biz via AF for 120k
Ask the company to reimburse you their cheapest economy fare
You can transfer / share miles back and forth for 1.1 cpm. So your cost for Biz = 1320$ + tax
you get reimbursed for economy + tax = 750$ Max you will be out 500$ for Biz "upgrade"
Ask the company to reimburse you their cheapest economy fare
You can transfer / share miles back and forth for 1.1 cpm. So your cost for Biz = 1320$ + tax
you get reimbursed for economy + tax = 750$ Max you will be out 500$ for Biz "upgrade"
I am approaching all of you gurus rather gingerly with this request - please be gentle, still trying to get the hang of this...
1. Business trip LIT - BOM planned for around 20 January 2012, with return around 6 February 2012. Company will purchase the cheapest option available, so I expect a T or U fare (at least, that is what shows up on Delta.com when I plan the flight).
2. I will make PM with my next flight this year, so will be around 80,000 BIS and more than 110,000 award miles.
Question: could I attempt to use these Skymiles to upgrade the company ticket to at least sit up front on the ATL-BOM portions of the itinerary?
On the Delta.com site I was unable to find this kind of an option, but only able to find the option to reserve reward tickets, which came to 260,000 miles ONE WAY.
Am I missing something? Any assistance that you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
I do have some flexibility (a day or two either side)...
1. Business trip LIT - BOM planned for around 20 January 2012, with return around 6 February 2012. Company will purchase the cheapest option available, so I expect a T or U fare (at least, that is what shows up on Delta.com when I plan the flight).
2. I will make PM with my next flight this year, so will be around 80,000 BIS and more than 110,000 award miles.
Question: could I attempt to use these Skymiles to upgrade the company ticket to at least sit up front on the ATL-BOM portions of the itinerary?
On the Delta.com site I was unable to find this kind of an option, but only able to find the option to reserve reward tickets, which came to 260,000 miles ONE WAY.
Am I missing something? Any assistance that you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
I do have some flexibility (a day or two either side)...
Dec 12, 2011, 2:50 am
#685
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KQ Business award
I need to know if there is one seat in Business for the following dates and flights:
LHR-NBO 25 JAN12 KQ101
NBO-SEZ 26 JAN12 KQ450
Thank you for your support!
Regards
LHR-NBO 25 JAN12 KQ101
NBO-SEZ 26 JAN12 KQ450
Thank you for your support!
Regards
Dec 12, 2011, 10:49 am
#686
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[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:
LON London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP NBO Nairobi Metro / Jomo Kenyatta Intl KE = NBO WIL [HKNA] WED 25 Jan 2012 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------ KQ 101 LHR 19:00 NBO 06:30 +1 CX- YS+ AF 1381 LHR 06:40 CDG 09:00 CX- YS+ -> KQ 113 CDG 11:00 NBO 21:30 AF 1081 LHR 07:15 CDG 09:30 CX- YS+ -> KQ 113 CDG 11:00 NBO 21:30 KL 1024 LHR 18:10 AMS 20:30 CS+ YS+ -> KL 565 AMS 10:35 +1 NBO 20:40 +1 KL 1030 LHR 19:15 AMS 21:30 CS+ YS+ -> KL 565 AMS 10:35 +1 NBO 20:40 +1 AZ 209 LHR 20:00 FCO 23:30 CS+ YS+ -> KQ 121 FCO 10:10 +1 NBO 19:35 +1
Code:
NBO Nairobi Metro / Jomo Kenyatta Intl KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
SEZ Seychelles Mahe Is Pointe La Rue Intl SC [FSIA]
THU 26 Jan 2012 | 1 Seat
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------------------------------------------------------
No Award Availability/Route Too Complex/Date Out-Of-Range
Dec 14, 2011, 5:38 am
#689
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Delta via NRT, NGO, KIX
Korean via ICN
China Airlines via NRT
China Eastern via PVG
Hawaiian via KIX, ICN, HND and MNL
Dec 14, 2011, 5:39 am
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