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American Individual Trip to Cuba in November 2017

American Individual Trip to Cuba in November 2017

Old Sep 26, 17, 2:12 pm
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American Individual Trip to Cuba in November 2017

I am planning to go to Cuba in November this year. I will be staying casa particulars taking dancing classes and attending music concerts, which means I spend most money directly for Cuban people. Will my trip be legitimate under the new law that will be placed soon?
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Old Sep 26, 17, 4:06 pm
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Possibly. If your days are spent full time in cultural pursuits, then your trip will probably comply. It can't be an hour dance lesson in the morning and a concert in the evening, with the beach in between.

Remember: We have yet to see the new rules.
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Old Sep 27, 17, 7:41 am
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"The new law that will be placed soon" is not likely to be in effect "in November this year", so you would likely still be operating under the existing OFAC regulations.

What OFAC reason for travel do you intend to choose? People to People? Or Support for the Cuban People?

You say: " I will be staying casa particulars taking dancing classes and attending music concerts, which means I spend most money directly for Cuban people."

Under P2P, you are supposed have a full time schedule of educational activities. This is almost impossible to arrange for a first time trip, to make the contacts necessary, unless you arrange for full time tours.
Under Support, you are not supposed to be supporting the Cuban government, which is part owner in many hotels, runs the public transportation systems, owns the museums, and forms music and dance groups.
So if you're going to worry about fulfilling OFAC criteria, you have a hard task.

However, OFAC has not audited anyone for years (and it looks like they are not likely to have funding to do so in future, nor time, given all the other problems they oversee), so the alternative is just to go, be a tourist like every other independent traveler has done, forget about trying to fulfill the letter of the regs, and hope they don't ever take notice of any independent US travelers.
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Old Sep 27, 17, 5:49 pm
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The new law allows people-to-people travelers to come to Cuba with regulated tour groups. I guess I will have to choose Support for the Cuban people. If the new law is not in place yet by the time when I travel, then I will probably choose People to People educational activities.
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Old Sep 28, 17, 2:50 pm
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There is NO NEW LAW.

And may not be.....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...cy-stalls.html
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Old Oct 13, 17, 9:45 pm
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If in doubt, just go to Cuba through Mexico or Canada - no questions asked. About 25 years ago, I flew to Cuba through Cancun and about half of the people on the plane were Americans.

I'm returning to Cuba next month, but this time I am flying directly from Paris.
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Old Oct 14, 17, 5:32 am
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Going through Mexico or Canada just adds/doubles the cost, and you may be asked (in Mexico anyway) to fill out an OFAC declaration anyway to board the plane.
In the "old days", US passports did not get stamped by Cuba when going through another country. Now they do. No different from going direct.

FYI, chulheekim, as mentioned above, if OFAC were to actually audit an individual P2P visitor, the schedules and proof of most would NOT qualify. It is simply too difficult for most to make the proper connections to do a full time educational program on a first visit.
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