LAX [and other US POEs] to Havana
Jan 16, 2015, 2:08 pm
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LAX [and other US POEs] to Havana
Hello,
Does anyone have any information on the best route to get to Havana from LAX? I'm not sure if you still need to link up with a group in order to travel there legally, but any info would be greatly appreciated.
I'd prefer to not go with a group, as I like to wander around myself - and, go on my own schedule. However, if there is a group that is loosely defined, and does not include tons of mandatory group outings - that could work!
Thank you!
Does anyone have any information on the best route to get to Havana from LAX? I'm not sure if you still need to link up with a group in order to travel there legally, but any info would be greatly appreciated.
I'd prefer to not go with a group, as I like to wander around myself - and, go on my own schedule. However, if there is a group that is loosely defined, and does not include tons of mandatory group outings - that could work!
Thank you!
Jan 16, 2015, 2:16 pm
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Thinking most people go to mexico city or cancun and hop a flight to HAV
very easy to get around once there and some nice hotels .
once in HAV they don't stamp passports so ok to return.
i have done it and heaps of others i know
met a huge group of US citizens at the national hotel watching Buena vista social club .
very easy to get around once there and some nice hotels .
once in HAV they don't stamp passports so ok to return.
i have done it and heaps of others i know
met a huge group of US citizens at the national hotel watching Buena vista social club .
Jan 16, 2015, 2:57 pm
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Jan 16, 2015, 3:00 pm
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If you have to go today, LAX-MEX-HAV as two PNR's. Just a guess...
If you can wait a few weeks, probably LAX-IAH-HAV or LAX-MIA-HAV, depending on your preference of UA vs. AA.
Guessing DL will file for ATL-HAV if they haven't already. The two or three articles I've read in the past couple days only specifically call out UA and AA as filing to fly or already flying charters in the case of AA.
If you can wait a few weeks, probably LAX-IAH-HAV or LAX-MIA-HAV, depending on your preference of UA vs. AA.
Guessing DL will file for ATL-HAV if they haven't already. The two or three articles I've read in the past couple days only specifically call out UA and AA as filing to fly or already flying charters in the case of AA.
Jan 16, 2015, 5:52 pm
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Why do so many people (including in news reports) want to go to Cuba. Is it because it is a rarity now? Cuba is repressive. If one has family ties, that's different. However, if one just wants a place that is not well traveled and has hot weather, there are many other places to go. I would prefer Namibia, Suriname, and Timor Leste over Cuba.
Before, US-Cuba relations were at a standstill because Castro seized American property when he took over and refused compensation. President Obama should have kept that demand. At the very least, he could have agreed upon discounted compensation but to lift the embargo for a few prisoners is bad negotiation, just as negotiating with Red China to get them to freeze carbon emissions at 2030 levels while the U.S. agrees to reduce them from current levels. I thought lawyers were more skilled at negotiation.?
The President is a lawyer. I want my lawyer to negotiate better!
Before, US-Cuba relations were at a standstill because Castro seized American property when he took over and refused compensation. President Obama should have kept that demand. At the very least, he could have agreed upon discounted compensation but to lift the embargo for a few prisoners is bad negotiation, just as negotiating with Red China to get them to freeze carbon emissions at 2030 levels while the U.S. agrees to reduce them from current levels. I thought lawyers were more skilled at negotiation.?
The President is a lawyer. I want my lawyer to negotiate better!
Jan 16, 2015, 6:16 pm
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Why do so many people (including in news reports) want to go to Cuba. Is it because it is a rarity now? Cuba is repressive. If one has family ties, that's different. However, if one just wants a place that is not well traveled and has hot weather, there are many other places to go. I would prefer Namibia, Suriname, and Timor Leste over Cuba.
Before, US-Cuba relations were at a standstill because Castro seized American property when he took over and refused compensation. President Obama should have kept that demand. At the very least, he could have agreed upon discounted compensation but to lift the embargo for a few prisoners is bad negotiation, just as negotiating with Red China to get them to freeze carbon emissions at 2030 levels while the U.S. agrees to reduce them from current levels. I thought lawyers were more skilled at negotiation.? The President is a lawyer. I want my lawyer to negotiate better!
Before, US-Cuba relations were at a standstill because Castro seized American property when he took over and refused compensation. President Obama should have kept that demand. At the very least, he could have agreed upon discounted compensation but to lift the embargo for a few prisoners is bad negotiation, just as negotiating with Red China to get them to freeze carbon emissions at 2030 levels while the U.S. agrees to reduce them from current levels. I thought lawyers were more skilled at negotiation.? The President is a lawyer. I want my lawyer to negotiate better!
Cuba seems to have a vibrant culture, decent food, great music and I'm sure it's interesting to see a country that has cars from the 1950s rolling around on the streets.
Cuba was never going to pay for land that was in their own country and China isn't close to being "Red" anymore. We don't live in the 1950's anymore and the boycott was stupid. I'm glad they lifted it.
Jan 16, 2015, 6:44 pm
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Red China is still red. Only the Communist Party is allowed. Any other party is banned. The flag is red, too.
If the boycott was stupid, why are Cubans in Cuba happy that it is lifted? Because it wasn't stupid. In 10 years, you will see made in Cuba clothing and other things that Cuba is selling to the U.S. They have cheap labor so they will win over the U.S.
Jan 16, 2015, 8:04 pm
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Jan 16, 2015, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
Cuba was never going to pay for land that was in their own country and China isn't close to being "Red" anymore. We don't live in the 1950's anymore and the boycott was stupid. I'm glad they lifted it.
When governments in the U.S. (usually local or state) seize land, they pay the owners for it. In Cuba, they stole it. Some of the land were owned by Americans. Some were companies, but some were ordinary Americans that owned a house.
Red China is still red. Only the Communist Party is allowed. Any other party is banned. The flag is red, too.
If the boycott was stupid, why are Cubans in Cuba happy that it is lifted? Because it wasn't stupid. In 10 years, you will see made in Cuba clothing and other things that Cuba is selling to the U.S. They have cheap labor so they will win over the U.S.
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
Cuba was never going to pay for land that was in their own country and China isn't close to being "Red" anymore. We don't live in the 1950's anymore and the boycott was stupid. I'm glad they lifted it.
When governments in the U.S. (usually local or state) seize land, they pay the owners for it. In Cuba, they stole it. Some of the land were owned by Americans. Some were companies, but some were ordinary Americans that owned a house.
Red China is still red. Only the Communist Party is allowed. Any other party is banned. The flag is red, too.
If the boycott was stupid, why are Cubans in Cuba happy that it is lifted? Because it wasn't stupid. In 10 years, you will see made in Cuba clothing and other things that Cuba is selling to the U.S. They have cheap labor so they will win over the U.S.
Jan 16, 2015, 9:58 pm
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Jan 16, 2015, 10:52 pm
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As a non American who was in Cuba - It is a very very nice place, with (overly at times) friendly people, history, culture and views.
Even the US took over "private property" (for example in the recent crisis or the native Americans land), and the fact that the US pushed Cuba to become red (Castro just had issues with the very corrupt Batista), so I really don't understand the resentment towards Cuba you show.
Everybody are crooks. ok, maybe not Canada in the last 100 years), but still...
Even the US took over "private property" (for example in the recent crisis or the native Americans land), and the fact that the US pushed Cuba to become red (Castro just had issues with the very corrupt Batista), so I really don't understand the resentment towards Cuba you show.
Everybody are crooks. ok, maybe not Canada in the last 100 years), but still...