Travel to Havana, Cuban visa
Next year I'm attending a conference in Puerto Rico (SJU). After this, I would like to go to Havana, Cuba.
I see that Copa allows me to book flights on its website via Panama: SJU-PTY-HAV return on one ticket. I'm not a US citizen (Australian actually), and assuming SJU is an US port, is this OK / legal to purchase on the one ticket? Also, I read that one can get a Cuban visa at the Copa checkin desk but would this be at SJU? or PTY? If PTY can this be done airside without the need to clear immigration at PTY? Thanks in advance! |
Puerto Rico is a US port. I've always had to nest the fares in order to get it to work.
Another option is B6 to SDQ and CU to HAV purchased separately. |
Originally Posted by mkt
(Post 20698490)
Puerto Rico is a US port. I've always had to nest the fares in order to get it to work.
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Try booking it. When I've tried to book it before, I've been refused. i've had to nest it, and for the cost, it's not worth it - it's cheaper to fly SJU-SDQ/SDQ-HAV on B6/CU.
One thing to mention though, if you DO get to book it, your bags may not get checked all the way through to HAV at SJU, so you may need to clear customs/immigration at PTY to get your bags and recheck them. Allow for a long enough layover in PTY to do that. |
Out of curiosity I have done a little research and have found the following websites which have information for Australians.
http://www.honeymoonguide.com.au/car...ing-there.html http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/cuba Somewhere between 200,000 and 400,000 Americans visit Cuba yearly and get there just as you are planning - with a connecting flight through a non-U.S. country (although admittedly it is difficult to ascertain whether "connecting" means a same day flight or a layover and whether it is on a single ticket or two separate tickets). As far as I can tell, the restrictions apply only to U.S. citizens and I can't imagine U.S. authorities being able to tell an Australian where they can and cannot go! A visa on arrival is available in Cuba but you may be more comfortable with a Tourist Card, arranged ahead of time, which allows a single entry visit for up to 30 days. I have also just come across the following. Post # 13 answers your question specifically. If this is correct then you are better off with a single ticket. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntre...readID=2275144 JMHO but it appears you'll be fine. |
Originally Posted by chchkiwi
(Post 20708541)
Out of curiosity I have done a little research and have found the following websites which have information for Australians.
http://www.honeymoonguide.com.au/car...ing-there.html http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/cuba Somewhere between 200,000 and 400,000 Americans visit Cuba yearly and get there just as you are planning - with a connecting flight through a non-U.S. country (although admittedly it is difficult to ascertain whether "connecting" means a same day flight or a layover and whether it is on a single ticket or two separate tickets). As far as I can tell, the restrictions apply only to U.S. citizens and I can't imagine U.S. authorities being able to tell an Australian where they can and cannot go! A visa on arrival is available in Cuba but you may be more comfortable with a Tourist Card, arranged ahead of time, which allows a single entry visit for up to 30 days. I have also just come across the following. Post # 13 answers your question specifically. If this is correct then you are better off with a single ticket. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntre...readID=2275144 JMHO but it appears you'll be fine. PS: I will apply for a Cuban visa in Oz (costs $60 so a bit more expensive than buying at Pty) so I don't have to worry about buying one at Pty. |
I hope that it works that way... I just literally attempted to make that booking on the phone (SJU-PTY-HAV) through the elite call center in Panama City using skype (in case they saw my US number and that gave them some additional restriction)... and their words were that they would have to be nested, and you'd need at least a 3 hour layover in PTY to clear customs/immigration and recheck your bags.
My personal preference is via SDQ for lower cost, novelty of flying CU, and well... it's not out of the way. |
Originally Posted by mkt
(Post 20709299)
I hope that it works that way... I just literally attempted to make that booking on the phone (SJU-PTY-HAV) through the elite call center in Panama City using skype (in case they saw my US number and that gave them some additional restriction)... and their words were that they would have to be nested, and you'd need at least a 3 hour layover in PTY to clear customs/immigration and recheck your bags.
My personal preference is via SDQ for lower cost, novelty of flying CU, and well... it's not out of the way. |
kpc - just glad to come up with the information you were seeking and learn something in the process. Look forward to seeing you both again in a couple of weeks.
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Originally Posted by kpc
(Post 20709812)
Interesting....are you a US citizen? Would that make a difference to the agent on the phone? (As already mentioned above, the COPA website allows the Sju-Pty-Hav booking on 1 ticket)
I didn't ask as a multi-city itin though... but I'd still be wary regarding the checked bags all the way. |
Heh... it just allowed me to get as far as the payment screen as a multi-city. In that one you win.
However, I had to compare the prices. It costs twice as much as how I've done it before (SJU-SDQ on AA or B6, and SDQ-HAV on CU) |
Update for others' benefit: I bought Lifemiles with a 100% promo and booked 2x J return awards Sju-Pty-Hav for a net cost of approx USD1284 (or USD622 each). We returned from Cuba a week ago, and flew this return route with no problems. A few points: You cannot get the tourist card at Sju; if you haven't already obtained one prior (We obtained ours in advance for £20 each from http://www.cubavisas.com/index.php ), you can get one at the departure gate at Pty.
On the return, it took a little while to get both the Hav-Pty, and Pty-Sju BPs. We were asked to show our etickets showing our flights leaving Sju (and the USA), and the info was typed into the computer. The computer picked up my +1s ESTA (both travelling on Australian passports) without any problems but i was asked to provide a printout of mine, and I think the authorisation code was entered manually. Took about 25 minutes all up to produce the 2 BPs each. At Sju, we declared that we had been to Cuba, and were asked how Havana was, and had absolutely no problems returning to Sju (USA). Oh...had a blast in Havana!^ |
Originally Posted by chchkiwi
(Post 20708541)
Out of curiosity I have done a little research and have found the following websites which have information for Australians.
http://www.honeymoonguide.com.au/car...ing-there.html http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/cuba Somewhere between 200,000 and 400,000 Americans visit Cuba yearly and get there just as you are planning - with a connecting flight through a non-U.S. country (although admittedly it is difficult to ascertain whether "connecting" means a same day flight or a layover and whether it is on a single ticket or two separate tickets). As far as I can tell, the restrictions apply only to U.S. citizens and I can't imagine U.S. authorities being able to tell an Australian where they can and cannot go! A visa on arrival is available in Cuba but you may be more comfortable with a Tourist Card, arranged ahead of time, which allows a single entry visit for up to 30 days. I have also just come across the following. Post # 13 answers your question specifically. If this is correct then you are better off with a single ticket. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntre...readID=2275144 JMHO but it appears you'll be fine. |
Originally Posted by kpc
(Post 20695972)
Next year I'm attending a conference in Puerto Rico (SJU). After this, I would like to go to Havana, Cuba.
I see that Copa allows me to book flights on its website via Panama: SJU-PTY-HAV return on one ticket. I'm not a US citizen (Australian actually), and assuming SJU is an US port, is this OK / legal to purchase on the one ticket? Also, I read that one can get a Cuban visa at the Copa checkin desk but would this be at SJU? or PTY? If PTY can this be done airside without the need to clear immigration at PTY? Thanks in advance! |
Originally Posted by kpc
(Post 20698867)
Thanks, I understand this but if COPA lets me book the Sju-Pty-Hav fare on one ticket (multi city booking), is it legal (given SJU is an US port) and would I be allowed to board the plane:eek:? see below
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Air Itinerary Details https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...65234090_n.jpg Therefore, as expected, the fare is pricing out as SJUPTY v.v and PTYHAV v.v *FARE GUARANTEED AT TICKET ISSUANCE* E-TKT REQUIRED *PENALTY APPLIES* LAST DATE TO PURCHASE TICKET: 18MAY14 $B-1 C15MAY14 SJU CM PTY Q80.00 299.00EHW28C65 CM HAV Q60.00 227.00E14F30 CM PTY Q60.00 227.00E14F30 CM SJU Q80.00 239.00ELX28C65 NUC1272.00END ROE1.0 |
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