Luxury Cruise Lines
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I am considering Seabourn for the PanCanal cruise but the pricing differential vis Windstar (for larger suite) is sufficiently large so as to give me pause. I don't mind spending the bucks but I am desirous of quid pro quo. The cost of our Regent and Silversea voyages was entirely egregious when compared with what was delivered. So, I'm leaning toward Windstar yet again.
Looking to book for December or January.
Looking to book for December or January.
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Of the companies mentioned, none are luxury and Windstar as luxury is the biggest joke. But Windstar fits for you and that's cool. Why debate a non issue on here?
#140
Just curious...if Regent and Silversea are not " luxury" cruise lines.... what are some? ( I don't know ...that is why I am asking.)
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Short of having the funds to charter a truly luxury yacht I’d say Seabourn, Silversea, Regent, and a couple of others are about as close to luxury you’re going to get. Maybe it’s a comparison thing and it might be argued there really isn’t a truly luxury line.
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Using TA language, there are mass market, premium, and luxury. And as Randy notes, typically Silversea, Seabourn & Regent are in the "luxury" category. I use the term because that's the way the industry categorizes them, for better or worse.....
I do think that whether or not you believe they're "luxury", you'd have to agree at least on the general hierarchy within the industry?
I think it's useful to have a common language around discussing the options.
I do think that whether or not you believe they're "luxury", you'd have to agree at least on the general hierarchy within the industry?
I think it's useful to have a common language around discussing the options.
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Also not complete (and a couple years old) but also how I understand the cruise industry. Not talking about charters.....
Intro to Cruise Line Categories: Mass Market, Premium, and Luxury ? Kevin Dern Travel
Intro to Cruise Line Categories: Mass Market, Premium, and Luxury ? Kevin Dern Travel
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For the common USA market, I agree with the listings. Anyone that sailed Silversea or Seabourn during their first few years of existence would know the definition of luxury at sea product. Today, Hapag-Lloyd has two ships that might be considered a step above. In the future, I would expect Ritz Carlton to be closer to the luxury product offered during mid/late 1990 decade. Also, Scenic and Hapag-Lloyd have exploration ships coming up that should fit this category. All the companies have huge common problem.......they must have people that can deliver in front of passengers and behind the scenes.
Anyway, we're into 2019. I must quit crying about what was and what is. Silversea has some great core passengers that do not mind paying sky high prices for a totally inferior product with inept management and second or third rate staff that are as loyal to the company as some passengers. I've never considered Regent in the luxury category, though many do. Sea Dream would be the old, old Seabourn luxury yachts. For value today, I subscribe to Crystal and Seabourn. It's an ever evolving industry......apologies for getting carried away.
Anyway, we're into 2019. I must quit crying about what was and what is. Silversea has some great core passengers that do not mind paying sky high prices for a totally inferior product with inept management and second or third rate staff that are as loyal to the company as some passengers. I've never considered Regent in the luxury category, though many do. Sea Dream would be the old, old Seabourn luxury yachts. For value today, I subscribe to Crystal and Seabourn. It's an ever evolving industry......apologies for getting carried away.
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I have friends who took that cruise with Seabourn recently. They can be quite...picky about their travel needs, and they loved it! They did have to teach the bartenders their favorite cocktails, but it's a long cruise, so they had the time to train them fully!
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I'm planning a multi-generational (3 gens) Mediterranean cruise Summer 2020. Looking for a line / ship that can be considered premium to luxury, primarily English speaking, and good for kids (ages 7 and 9). I also prefer smaller ships to large ones, but I suppose we have to have at least a 50,000+ ton ship to have enough kid-friendly resources. Absolutely not a Disney Cruise - been there, done that, and Disney is not premium or luxury IMHO. What does "good for kids" mean? I would say:
N.B. I have read good things about Crystal Serenity as it relates to family friendly cruising, but I haven't found a good itinerary for our dates.
- Staff that caters to kids
- Fellow passengers who won't constantly thumb their noses up at kids
- A reasonable number of additional kids on the ship
- Good family pool facilities, water features / slides (prob not going to find this on the smaller luxury ships)
- Kid-friendly entertainment
- Kid's programming, crafts, etc. and/or Kid's Club
N.B. I have read good things about Crystal Serenity as it relates to family friendly cruising, but I haven't found a good itinerary for our dates.
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I'm planning a multi-generational (3 gens) Mediterranean cruise Summer 2020. Looking for a line / ship that can be considered premium to luxury, primarily English speaking, and good for kids (ages 7 and 9). I also prefer smaller ships to large ones, but I suppose we have to have at least a 50,000+ ton ship to have enough kid-friendly resources. Absolutely not a Disney Cruise - been there, done that, and Disney is not premium or luxury IMHO. What does "good for kids" mean? I would say:
N.B. I have read good things about Crystal Serenity as it relates to family friendly cruising, but I haven't found a good itinerary for our dates.
- Staff that caters to kids
- Fellow passengers who won't constantly thumb their noses up at kids
- A reasonable number of additional kids on the ship
- Good family pool facilities, water features / slides (prob not going to find this on the smaller luxury ships)
- Kid-friendly entertainment
- Kid's programming, crafts, etc. and/or Kid's Club
N.B. I have read good things about Crystal Serenity as it relates to family friendly cruising, but I haven't found a good itinerary for our dates.
Without getting into the debate about what lines are really premium Celebrity might be a better match at least for children venues and programs. At 129,500 tons Celebrity Edge has enough room to do that. Of course you’re also on a ship with 2,900 other passengers which is enough to make me run for the exit.
A word about Med cruises in general that may or may not impact your choice. With few exceptions Med cruises are port intensive itineraries with very few sea days. We’ve cruised exactly 100 days in the Med in the past six years and have had a total of five or six sea days in eight cruises meaning two or three cruises have had no sea days at all. Unlike the Caribbean few of the Med ports are destinations in and of themselves so you find yourself traveling sometimes substantial distances and away from the ship for hours. That might make ship venues and programs a little less important.
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we will sail florida straits on oceania
I am considering Seabourn for the PanCanal cruise but the pricing differential vis Windstar (for larger suite) is sufficiently large so as to give me pause. I don't mind spending the bucks but I am desirous of quid pro quo. The cost of our Regent and Silversea voyages was entirely egregious when compared with what was delivered. So, I'm leaning toward Windstar yet again.
Looking to book for December or January.
Looking to book for December or January.
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I'm planning a multi-generational (3 gens) Mediterranean cruise Summer 2020. Looking for a line / ship that can be considered premium to luxury, primarily English speaking, and good for kids (ages 7 and 9). I also prefer smaller ships to large ones, but I suppose we have to have at least a 50,000+ ton ship to have enough kid-friendly resources. Absolutely not a Disney Cruise - been there, done that, and Disney is not premium or luxury IMHO. What does "good for kids" mean? I would say:
N.B. I have read good things about Crystal Serenity as it relates to family friendly cruising, but I haven't found a good itinerary for our dates.
- Staff that caters to kids
- Fellow passengers who won't constantly thumb their noses up at kids
- A reasonable number of additional kids on the ship
- Good family pool facilities, water features / slides (prob not going to find this on the smaller luxury ships)
- Kid-friendly entertainment
- Kid's programming, crafts, etc. and/or Kid's Club
N.B. I have read good things about Crystal Serenity as it relates to family friendly cruising, but I haven't found a good itinerary for our dates.
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