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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 33830196)
Baltic's great - it's like sailing on glass. Just be aware the port marked "Berlin" is about a three or four hour bus ride away (a bit quicker by train). Just enjoy Warnemünde.
It's expensive, terribly expensive, to do the NCL tours to Berlin though, and it's probably the one place I wouldn't consider an alternative due to the distance involved and the chance of missing the boat. St Petersburg is a different story though. Probably SPB tours. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
(Post 33830551)
Thanks, yes, I've read how far out of town Berlin is. But this will likely be my only chance to see it, the Wall, the WWII Jewish Ghettos, Brandenburg Gate, those are things I feel compelled to see.
Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
(Post 33830551)
St Petersburg is a different story though. Probably SPB tours. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 33830738)
If you have the time, I would recommend spending a couple of days before or after your cruise. It shouldn't add too much to your flights depending on your routing. Or even fly to MUC/FRA and take a train to Berlin.
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I disembarked from my Anthem of the Seas cruise a couple days ago. Masking compliance was good. The Coco Cay Beach Club was practically empty (well under 25% capacity).
From my perspective, the only negative in comparison to my November cruise on Princess (see post #2 above) is that testing was required to be arranged for individually in the 2 days prior to boarding (Princess tested all passengers at the cruise terminal immediately prior to check-in). While testing at the terminal has the downside of not knowing that you will pass until you are trying to board, the downside of individually-arranged tests is the added stress of waiting for the results. My traveling companions were promised results within 24 hours (so ~28 hours before boarding), but did not get the first until 6 hours before boarding; the last was received about 2.5 hours before boarding. In my case, I took my test in the late morning 2 days before and was told that I would receive the results that evening; when they hadn't arrived the next morning I went back to my test site (very inconvenient) to collect my results in person before taking AmTrak to Newark the day before embarkation. |
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Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
(Post 33832942)
The issue is that Berlin would be on my bucket list, but not my wife's. Not so sure she'd think it fun to spend an overnight there. But she does have some german heritage and if it turns out there is family of some sort in Berlin, or just others with her last name? Maybe.
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I've just booked cruises for July and November - I don't feel comfortable booking anything any sooner just yet. I think I'm about convinced that there is no more realistic possibilty of avoiding covid while still working, so maybe I'll get comfortable faster than expected.
It's especially tough because we have some really, really attractive rates offers, plus several cancelled cruise credits associated with some extra onboard credit. I'm not sure Carnival will extend the window on using these, so I might have to bite the bullet soon regardless of my discomfort. |
Originally Posted by gretchendz
(Post 33864966)
Does she like art, history, beer? Berlin is amazing!
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Originally Posted by gretchendz
(Post 33864966)
Does she like art, history, beer? Berlin is amazing!
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Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
(Post 33869981)
I mean, I love history, beer & architecture ("art" depends - I prefer archeology museums, house museums) but Berlin isn't high on my "must visit" list. I'd do it if my partner wanted to, but I'm not sure I'd do the drive from the port if I were on a Baltics cruise......There are many other places in the region that I would prioritize over Berlin. And that's ok too! We don't all have to like or want the same things ;-)
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Only kind of ship to take for visiting Berlin would be an airship but we're almost a century past that now.
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Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
(Post 33869981)
I mean, I love history, beer & architecture ("art" depends - I prefer archeology museums, house museums) but Berlin isn't high on my "must visit" list. I'd do it if my partner wanted to, but I'm not sure I'd do the drive from the port if I were on a Baltics cruise......There are many other places in the region that I would prioritize over Berlin. And that's ok too! We don't all have to like or want the same things ;-)
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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach
(Post 33871598)
Only kind of ship to take for visiting Berlin would be an airship but we're almost a century past that now.
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Originally Posted by gretchendz
(Post 33874952)
It's only a 40 minute train ride from Hamburg to Berlin...I just did it a couple of weeks ago while visiting as many Christmas markets as humanly possible and visiting family :)
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Originally Posted by gretchendz
(Post 33871554)
And iot's germany--don't drive, take the train :) Hamburg is actually pretty cool too.
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Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
(Post 33898300)
I was responding to the cruise/Berlin component - I've never seen an option to take a train from Warnemunde to Berlin, just a coach. Which is what I was saying I wouldn't do because I don't want to see Berlin that much. If we do another sort of trip to Germany, it's an option. Germany has never been high on my personal travel list and we've already done a Christmas market river cruise - that suited my personal desires ;-) If we do something else in the future, there will be discussions between me & spouse about our priorities.....
Summary of our first visit to Berlin using the cruise method. Get up at ungodly hour to board a rickety train for the almost 4 hour slow train ride. After arriving in Berlin, get on buses that swoop you through the city with nary a stop. Get off, walk, get on. Interested in actually seeing something...sorry, no time for that. Spend almost all of your time on a coach nodding off to sleep because you got up at 5 AM and couldn't sleep on the antiquated train. At 3 PM get back on train for 4 hour ride back. Arrive exhausted back at ship, and vow never ever to do that tour again. Second visit to Berlin Arrive in Berlin by air 12/27. Stay at 4-5 star hotel in center of city next to the park. Spend as much time seeing both historical and archeological sites. Tons of things to see and do, even in the middle of winter. Got to do New Years Eve downtown. Fabulous fun. Left New Years Day with wish we had more time to visit. The latter is the way to see Berlin. The former is a way to waste a day and a lot of money. |
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