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Costa Cruises has restarted in Europe

Old Sep 16, 20, 4:29 pm
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Costa Cruises has restarted in Europe

https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/55...eferrer=Boards
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Old Sep 16, 20, 5:39 pm
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting. This comes from the cruise line that allowed its captain to go off course and crash a ship on rocks.

Of note, per the article:

"One of the aspects of Costa's return, similar to what MSC Cruises does, is that all passengers must take an antigen COVID-19 swab test in the terminal before boarding. People who test positive then take a second molecular test, just to make sure there's not a false positive, before boarding."

It is well known that the false positive rate of this antigen testing is low, but the false negative rate is higher. What Costa is doing is only testing those who might have to be denied embarkation and have their money returned. They care much less if you have COVID-19 and there is a failure to find it on testing.

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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/faq-20484429

"Antigen test. This COVID-19 test detects certain proteins in the virus. Using a nasal or throat swab to get a fluid sample, antigen tests can produce results in minutes. Because these tests are faster and less expensive than PCR tests, antigen tests may be more practical to use for large numbers of people. A positive antigen test result is considered very accurate, but there's an increased chance of false-negative results meaning it's possible to be infected with the virus but have a negative result. Depending on the situation, the doctor may recommend a PCR test to confirm a negative antigen test result." [Bolding added]
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Old Sep 18, 20, 12:04 pm
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It's like playing Russian roulette. The ship has got to full of non-believers.
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Old Sep 18, 20, 12:16 pm
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Isn't this a cruise line that's known for really packing the people in on their ships? Mass market crowds.
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Old Sep 18, 20, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Isn't this a cruise line that's known for really packing the people in on their ships? Mass market crowds.
They have/had ships from 2k passengers and much more. In the earlier days of my cruising, I was on three cruises with them. Our general perspective was that the staff exerted little control over passengers who clearly needed structure. There was a laissez faire attitude amongst the staff with respect to passenger misbehavior. Many of the staff seemed incompetent, leading us to stop cruising with them even before the Concordia disaster.
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Old Sep 18, 20, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC View Post
They have/had ships from 2k passengers and much more. In the earlier days of my cruising, I was on three cruises with them. Our general perspective was that the staff exerted little control over passengers who clearly needed structure. There was a laissez faire attitude amongst the staff with respect to passenger misbehavior. Many of the staff seemed incompetent, leading us to stop cruising with them even before the Concordia disaster.
Although Italian culture and society seems a bit unorganised and chaotic (*), I imagine it is poor leadership/mgmt somewhere at Costa that allowed all the unfortunate events to happen. Only been on a few larger Italian-crewed boats (assorted Corsica Ferries, Saremar and Tirrenia ships) and captained (Celebrity Millennium) and nothing short of fairly-efficient and safe operation.

* - Hence the joke about hell being organised by the Italian heaven by the Swiss).
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