Alaska and "formal" nights
#46
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Finding the right line was the point of this thread as on previous cruises I went just along with the program. Your post and others suggest that even on Cunard the dress code isn't enforced so I'm not particularly interested in "obeying" if they aren't going to take it seriously. The fine print on the company websites lists restrictions (e.g. no bathing suits) and then what appear to be suggestions on what might be appropriate (e.g. suit, tux, etc.) on formal nights.
We are most likely going to book on Princess and I have no concerns about not wearing a jacket in the dining room on formal night in Alaska.
We are most likely going to book on Princess and I have no concerns about not wearing a jacket in the dining room on formal night in Alaska.
The vast majority of Cunard passengers will "obey," because they chose that particular line for a reason. Particularly on the itineraries that aren't North Atlantic crossings, where they could have chosen a different line with a less restrictive dress code.
FWIW, my wife dreaded the dress code and bringing enough clothing to obey it without wearing the same clothing numerous times, but she ended up enjoying it so much, she talks about how she'd like to do it again, only this time she'd like to cross both ways by ship (we flew home).
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#48
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It's a voluntary choice that a thousand passengers made at dinner each night, with two notable exceptions. The system appears to be working just fine.
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It works just fine for everyone. Even on Cunard those who wish to dress up can and those who do not are not denied access to the dining room. It's a win-win.
#50
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Even when the cruise line is explicit, there are some people who will still doggedly, and even rudely, insist that their more stringent formal dress restrictions must be complied with by all. For example, Holland America states clearly, in black and white, that jeans are perfectly acceptable in the dining room on smart casual nights (as long as they're not ripped or otherwise distressed, of course - same as tuxedos) yet there are some people rude enough to try to deceive others into thinking that jeans are not smart casual on Holland America. It reminds me a little of schoolyard bullying, but in reality it is basically just lying.
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Even when the cruise line is explicit, there are some people who will still doggedly, and even rudely, insist that their more stringent formal dress restrictions must be complied with by all. For example, Holland America states clearly, in black and white, that jeans are perfectly acceptable in the dining room on smart casual nights (as long as they're not ripped or otherwise distressed, of course - same as tuxedos) yet there are some people rude enough to try to deceive others into thinking that jeans are not smart casual on Holland America. It reminds me a little of schoolyard bullying, but in reality it is basically just lying.
#52
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You are a saint!
I don't forgive deception. It's been used too often and for too long to hurt people. Better for people to be up-front and honest: "You should wear a tux because I like it better when every man wears a tux in the dining room." If you don't feel that telling the truth will have the impact that you desire, then perhaps sometimes it is better to say nothing at all.
I don't forgive deception. It's been used too often and for too long to hurt people. Better for people to be up-front and honest: "You should wear a tux because I like it better when every man wears a tux in the dining room." If you don't feel that telling the truth will have the impact that you desire, then perhaps sometimes it is better to say nothing at all.
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We are back from our Alaska cruise (and land RV trip.)
I thought I'd mention that I was surprised by the number of folks that did dress up on our Holland America cruise. While there were definitely some folks that didn't dress up for the Gala nights, there were more men with a coat and tie than there weren't. Based on the comments I had seen on Cruise Critic, I was expecting fewer to be dressed up.
Note that I had no issues whether anyone else dressed up or not as that is not my business, but my wife really wanted us to dress up (as the first gala night was on our 30th anniversary). So we did.
I thought I'd mention that I was surprised by the number of folks that did dress up on our Holland America cruise. While there were definitely some folks that didn't dress up for the Gala nights, there were more men with a coat and tie than there weren't. Based on the comments I had seen on Cruise Critic, I was expecting fewer to be dressed up.
Note that I had no issues whether anyone else dressed up or not as that is not my business, but my wife really wanted us to dress up (as the first gala night was on our 30th anniversary). So we did.
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We are back from our Alaska cruise (and land RV trip.)
I thought I'd mention that I was surprised by the number of folks that did dress up on our Holland America cruise. While there were definitely some folks that didn't dress up for the Gala nights, there were more men with a coat and tie than there weren't. Based on the comments I had seen on Cruise Critic, I was expecting fewer to be dressed up.
Note that I had no issues whether anyone else dressed up or not as that is not my business, but my wife really wanted us to dress up (as the first gala night was on our 30th anniversary). So we did.
I thought I'd mention that I was surprised by the number of folks that did dress up on our Holland America cruise. While there were definitely some folks that didn't dress up for the Gala nights, there were more men with a coat and tie than there weren't. Based on the comments I had seen on Cruise Critic, I was expecting fewer to be dressed up.
Note that I had no issues whether anyone else dressed up or not as that is not my business, but my wife really wanted us to dress up (as the first gala night was on our 30th anniversary). So we did.
Happy Anniversary!
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I thought I'd mention that I was surprised by the number of folks that did dress up on our Holland America cruise. While there were definitely some folks that didn't dress up for the Gala nights, there were more men with a coat and tie than there weren't. Based on the comments I had seen on Cruise Critic, I was expecting fewer to be dressed up.
#59
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We were on a HAL Alaska cruise from Vancouver to Seward in mid June. There were 2 gala nights. On both nights we dressed smart casual - but with jackets and shoes (not sandals). When I asked the dining room manager if we should dress up a bit more, he said we were OK, no problem. We did observe that some of the pax (particularly the ladies) did dress up bit - sequinned dresses accessorised with jewelleries. The men not so much, just a crisp shirt - some with jackets.