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Brighton Line May 15, 2018 6:42 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29755398)
Any requirement to wear a jacket is a deal breaker. .

It really comes down to what is enforced at the entrance to the dining room no matter what is posted or on a website before that. I have seen many attire violations in the dining room even on casual nights.
Sure some passenger could complain during the meal that someone isn't dressed correctly but I doubt they would be thrown out after being seated.
Let's not start a topic about baseball hats in the dinning room too....

Romelle May 15, 2018 7:04 am


Originally Posted by A1pax (Post 29755255)
...taking along plenty of sea sickness tablets and ginger candy!) We have downloaded all the docs for the cruise and checked in. ...
Forgot to say that we intend to have carry-on bags only (no checked bag). We will do one way cruise from Vancouver to Seward, and own land itinerary in Alaska for another 7 days.

It is probable you won't need the sea sickness meds. The big ships really don't have much of the movement that can cause it, and it actually is pretty rare. Think positive, but take some comfort in your Plan B.

And you will be really happy not having to deal with the checked bag routine, both getting arriving and departing the ship.

Badenoch May 15, 2018 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Brighton Line (Post 29755620)
It really comes down to what is enforced at the entrance to the dining room no matter what is posted or on a website before that. I have seen many attire violations in the dining room even on casual nights.
Sure some passenger could complain during the meal that someone isn't dressed correctly but I doubt they would be thrown out after being seated.
Let's not start a topic about baseball hats in the dinning room too....

This is the reason behind my question. The websites seem vague and what I'm trying to gauge which cruise lines are the most accommodating, the lines least likely to enforce a strict code at the entrance to the dining room and the ones to cross off the list. I'm certainly not going to wear a baseball cap, shorts, jeans or other slovenly dress but won't be wearing a jacket either. I'd rather not check a bag for a short trip.

bicker May 16, 2018 3:33 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29755398)
Part of the problem is the lines appear to want to have it both ways appealing to the fancy dress crowd that want to relive their high school prom and those of us who can't be bothered.

But of course that's the way things are in real life: My neighbor likes dogs and I like cats; only one of us will appreciate the town's new Dog Park. My neighbor likes country music and I like rock; only one of us will appreciate the rock band providing entertainment at the July 4 celebration.

The "fancy dress crowd" has trouble dealing with the fact that the cruise lines now let those "who can't be bothered" onto the ship, after decades of cruise ships being exclusionary and specific to the "fancy dress crowd".


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29755398)
LOL. There seems to be a heavy weighting of crotchety people on Cruise Critic. You get more reliable and practical information on this site.

Well, with regard to air travel yes, but with regard to cruising - with all due respect to flyertalk - there is more reliable and practical information over on Cruise Critic. The challenge is understanding and keeping in mind what makes the information reliable - specifically that it is practical, i.e., information about how strenuous an excursion is, whether there are enough plugs for all your electronics, and whether you need to make advance arrangements if you're a vegetarian. When the thread isn't an opportunity for the "fancy dress crowd" to try to turn their noses up at those "who can't be bothered"; when the thread isn't an opportunity for bitter people to whine about the replacement of ballroom dancing with discotheques or the replacement of "dignified" music at sail-away with Caribbean steel bands; and when the thread isn't an opportunity for self-promoting over-tippers to argue with self-motivated cheapskates, etc., Cruise Critic is quite helpful.


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29756306)
This is the reason behind my question. The websites seem vague and what I'm trying to gauge which cruise lines are the most accommodating, the lines least likely to enforce a strict code at the entrance to the dining room and the ones to cross off the list.

My understanding is that none of the budget or mainstream cruise lines serving the NA market are significantly more or less likely to enforce a strict code, and as long as you have a collared shirt and slacks I cannot imagine that any of them will give you a second look.

Now, when you get into the premium and luxury lines, like Silver Sea, Regent Seven Seas or Seabourn, that might be different.

TribalistMeathead May 16, 2018 11:34 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29751689)
Is there a line we should avoid?

Cunard.

Badenoch May 17, 2018 5:39 am


Originally Posted by bicker (Post 29759470)
Well, with regard to air travel yes, but with regard to cruising - with all due respect to flyertalk - there is more reliable and practical information over on Cruise Critic. The challenge is understanding and keeping in mind what makes the information reliable - specifically that it is practical, i.e., information about how strenuous an excursion is, whether there are enough plugs for all your electronics, and whether you need to make advance arrangements if you're a vegetarian. When the thread isn't an opportunity for the "fancy dress crowd" to try to turn their noses up at those "who can't be bothered"; when the thread isn't an opportunity for bitter people to whine about the replacement of ballroom dancing with discotheques or the replacement of "dignified" music at sail-away with Caribbean steel bands; and when the thread isn't an opportunity for self-promoting over-tippers to argue with self-motivated cheapskates, etc., Cruise Critic is quite helpful.

That's a fair point. Cruise Critic can be a source of practical information but the subject of this thread would certainly bring out the self-appointed hall monitors. Cruising often seems to appeal more to those with a greater need for organization and rigid social structure and some of them have little tolerance for non-conformity.


Originally Posted by TribalistMeathead (Post 29761042)
Cunard.

Thanks. I wasn't aware Cunard offered Alaska cruises. Cunard only appeals to me for their NY-Southampton transatlantic service and those are more accurately described as voyages as opposed to mass-market holiday cruises.

TribalistMeathead May 17, 2018 7:21 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29763789)
Thanks. I wasn't aware Cunard offered Alaska cruises. Cunard only appeals to me for their NY-Southampton transatlantic service and those are more accurately described as voyages as opposed to mass-market holiday cruises.

They don't offer them regularly, but Queen Elizabeth is doing a series of Alaskan cruises during spring/summer 2019.

And yes, the NY-Southampton service is not a cruise, it's a crossing. Just as QM2 is not a cruise ship, it's an ocean liner.

Hoyaheel May 17, 2018 9:11 am

Azamara is "country club casual" (no sports coats required, no formal nights) in all dining areas at night. We enjoyed a 15 night cruise in Asia last year and I know they have some Alaska cruises - we were looking at some, as well as Oceania (also casual) but then found Seabourn at almost the same price as Oceania, so we booked that ;-) We'll go on an 11 night YVR-Seward cruise in Aug/Sept and can't wait. But they DO have "formal" nights where a sports coat at minimum is required in the main dining room. We're totally ok with that.

[as you can tell, we prefer small ships! We did Alaska on Pacific Princess in 2007 - loved the ship, but Princess has formal nights....]

Kagehitokiri May 17, 2018 9:47 am

pretty sure silversea did not have formal at all in alaska in 2011, also had makeshift kids club in a large meeting room

Hoyaheel May 17, 2018 10:29 am


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 29764651)
pretty sure silversea did not have formal at all in alaska in 2011,

https://www.silversea.com/travel-inf...formation.html


Please note: On 7 day sailings in the Baltic, Mediterranean and Alaska, formal night is always optional; guests may choose to
dress informal, a jacket is required for gentlemen.
No formal night but jacket still required (per website) which OP doesn't want. Heck, Silversea might be one of the few lines that still has a THREE tier dress code (Casual, informal, formal).....

hhoope01 May 17, 2018 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by Hoyaheel (Post 29764815)
Heck, Silversea might be one of the few lines that still has a THREE tier dress code (Casual, informal, formal).....

When we were looking for our cruise (coming in June) Silversea and Holland America were the 2 we settled on. And we went with HAL because of their being less formal.

bicker May 18, 2018 4:21 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 29763789)
Cruising often seems to appeal more to those with a greater need for organization and rigid social structure and some of them have little tolerance for non-conformity.

It's not cruise that does that, but rather participating on certain forums on Cruise Critic that does that. :)

Randyk47 May 18, 2018 4:46 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 29765786)
When we were looking for our cruise (coming in June) Silversea and Holland America were the 2 we settled on. And we went with HAL because of their being less formal.

While it’s true HAL is less formal it’s interesting that the decision between two very different cruise lines and experiences came down to dress code. Fully understand that can be a big issue but typically people are much more concerned about the cost difference.

hhoope01 May 18, 2018 5:42 am

Silversea would have been a bit more expensive yes, but we went with a Neptune suite on HAL (aft facing with the wraparound balcony.) So the cost actually wasn't all that big. And there were a few other factors as well like the wraparound balcony on HAL. I thought that might be very nice especially on an Alaska cruise. But since we are renting an RV and driving around where ever we want for the second week, I really didn't want to be carrying around a bunch of dress clothes that I was only going to wear a couple of times on the cruise ship.

MarJon May 18, 2018 6:55 am

After about 25 curies, we skip formal night completely. Less to pack and not at all like it used to be..... Which is sad.....


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