Costa Concordia Sinks!
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Cordelli, unfortunately I've seen at least one report where Costa representatives showed up at their hotel room and specifically told them they wouldn't help out with anything. They received absolutely no help from Costa, but are only home now because of their Embassy and their airline. Maybe now they are saying they will help, but it's taken them 5 days to start saying that.
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The experience on the ground seem to indicate that Costa was overwhelmed and didn't do a good job in the aftermath.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/travel...ies/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/travel...ies/index.html
Survivors of the disaster say the scene on land was equally chaotic. Fleser said the lifeboat ride to the Tuscan island of Giglio was the last she saw of Costa Cruises employees until she and her husband and daughter reached a hotel in Rome on Saturday.
The people of the island came out in force to help the stranded travelers, and a local priest opened up the church. Fleser and her family stayed at the home of a local family overnight.
"The people of the island were wonderful," Fleser said.
Nancy Lofaro and her husband wandered around on shore, finding a church, a local cafe and a small hotel all packed.
"There was no organization. There was nobody and the staff was in shock as much as we were. There were no announcements. We saw Costa people ... walking around with a bullhorn, not using it," Lofaro said.
Fleser and her family were herded onto a ferry to the mainland the morning after the wreck "but we had no idea where we were going."
Triage doctors, members of the coast guard, Red Cross and other volunteer organizations met the cruise passengers and took them to a local school where more local services were provided. Her daughter received a pair of sneakers there because she was still wearing high heels from the night before, Fleser said.
The family then boarded a bus to Rome, where they were dropped off at a hotel.
"The Marriott had no idea we were coming. All these refugee boat people land on their front door and they say, 'Who are you? But we'll take care of you,'" Fleser said.
There were two Costa cruise representatives at the hotel, "but every time we asked them if they could do something for us, they said they had no authority," she said.
The cruise line did pay for food, the hotel and their airfare home, Fleser said, although they booked them on a flight to Albany, Georgia, instead of Albany, New York -- a mistake the family discovered in the Atlanta airport.
The people of the island came out in force to help the stranded travelers, and a local priest opened up the church. Fleser and her family stayed at the home of a local family overnight.
"The people of the island were wonderful," Fleser said.
Nancy Lofaro and her husband wandered around on shore, finding a church, a local cafe and a small hotel all packed.
"There was no organization. There was nobody and the staff was in shock as much as we were. There were no announcements. We saw Costa people ... walking around with a bullhorn, not using it," Lofaro said.
Fleser and her family were herded onto a ferry to the mainland the morning after the wreck "but we had no idea where we were going."
Triage doctors, members of the coast guard, Red Cross and other volunteer organizations met the cruise passengers and took them to a local school where more local services were provided. Her daughter received a pair of sneakers there because she was still wearing high heels from the night before, Fleser said.
The family then boarded a bus to Rome, where they were dropped off at a hotel.
"The Marriott had no idea we were coming. All these refugee boat people land on their front door and they say, 'Who are you? But we'll take care of you,'" Fleser said.
There were two Costa cruise representatives at the hotel, "but every time we asked them if they could do something for us, they said they had no authority," she said.
The cruise line did pay for food, the hotel and their airfare home, Fleser said, although they booked them on a flight to Albany, Georgia, instead of Albany, New York -- a mistake the family discovered in the Atlanta airport.
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http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4715
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We were very lucky we were in one of the first lifeboats but because no one gave the order to drop the lifeboat and all the staff were waiting for him to give the order people sat and we stood in the lifeboat for ages, people were screaming and after the boat was full they shut the doors, but people were trapped on board as the other boats didn't work so they broke the doors to get onto the lifeboat I think by the time we left there would have been 200 in a lifeboat made for 115, when they waiters and one engineer decided to give up and just go the ship had already listed significantly, as we tried to drop the boat kept getting stuck on the side of the boat with desperate staff and passengers trying to lever it off the boat lurched forward and back twisiting as we got to the boat every time people fell on top of each other, if I had my phone I could send you a picture of my heel print in my leg, my partner had a small hernia in his belly button this has now expanded by people falling on him.
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Costa had five staff here all day yesterday until mid afternoon apparently there are people at 2 hotels at the airport. The staff were trying as hard as they could but they had nothing to give us, we still have no clothes, money has been provided by our embassy, our embassy is taking us shopping.
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Costa had five staff here all day yesterday until mid afternoon apparently there are people at 2 hotels at the airport. The staff were trying as hard as they could but they had nothing to give us, we still have no clothes, money has been provided by our embassy, our embassy is taking us shopping.
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[QUOTE=mikeef;17839059]Curious as to where you saw the bolded.
The captain was drinking at the ship’s bar with one or more women just before the crash. On duty.
http://gourl.gr/oly
'What scandalised me most was when I saw the captain spending much of the evening before we hit the rocks drinking in the bar with a beautiful woman on his arm.
Il Messaggero has identified her as 25-year-old Domnica Cermontan, a blonde woman from Moldava.
Members of the crew trampled passengers, including women, children and those in wheelchairs, in the rush to the lifeboats. Training? Discipline?
http://gourl.gr/ol3
For those rescued without clothing, money, passports or credit cards, Costa has said (literally): “You’re not getting anything from us. If you want compensation, sue us.”
http://gourl.gr/ol2
The captain was drinking at the ship’s bar with one or more women just before the crash. On duty.
http://gourl.gr/oly
'What scandalised me most was when I saw the captain spending much of the evening before we hit the rocks drinking in the bar with a beautiful woman on his arm.
Il Messaggero has identified her as 25-year-old Domnica Cermontan, a blonde woman from Moldava.
Members of the crew trampled passengers, including women, children and those in wheelchairs, in the rush to the lifeboats. Training? Discipline?
http://gourl.gr/ol3
For those rescued without clothing, money, passports or credit cards, Costa has said (literally): “You’re not getting anything from us. If you want compensation, sue us.”
http://gourl.gr/ol2
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More on the mysterious Domnika
Spain's Libertad Digital is reporting that the 25-year-old blonde Domnika Cemortan was not on the Concordia's passenger list; that she dined and drank wine with the captain the evening of the 13th; and that she was on the ship's bridge when the accident happened.
http://gourl.gr/ol7
http://gourl.gr/ol7
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The experience on the ground seem to indicate that Costa was overwhelmed and didn't do a good job in the aftermath.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/travel...ies/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/travel...ies/index.html
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[QUOTE=spainflyer;17843071]
I'm just gonna have to believe you on that first one!
If those reports are, indeed, accurate, I'm surprised they haven't been more widely disseminated.
Mike
Curious as to where you saw the bolded.
The captain was drinking at the ship’s bar with one or more women just before the crash. On duty.
http://gourl.gr/oly
'What scandalised me most was when I saw the captain spending much of the evening before we hit the rocks drinking in the bar with a beautiful woman on his arm.
Il Messaggero has identified her as 25-year-old Domnica Cermontan, a blonde woman from Moldava.
Members of the crew trampled passengers, including women, children and those in wheelchairs, in the rush to the lifeboats. Training? Discipline?
http://gourl.gr/ol3
For those rescued without clothing, money, passports or credit cards, Costa has said (literally): “You’re not getting anything from us. If you want compensation, sue us.”
http://gourl.gr/ol2
The captain was drinking at the ship’s bar with one or more women just before the crash. On duty.
http://gourl.gr/oly
'What scandalised me most was when I saw the captain spending much of the evening before we hit the rocks drinking in the bar with a beautiful woman on his arm.
Il Messaggero has identified her as 25-year-old Domnica Cermontan, a blonde woman from Moldava.
Members of the crew trampled passengers, including women, children and those in wheelchairs, in the rush to the lifeboats. Training? Discipline?
http://gourl.gr/ol3
For those rescued without clothing, money, passports or credit cards, Costa has said (literally): “You’re not getting anything from us. If you want compensation, sue us.”
http://gourl.gr/ol2
Spain's Libertad Digital is reporting that the 25-year-old blonde Domnika Cemortan was not on the Concordia's passenger list; that she dined and drank wine with the captain the evening of the 13th; and that she was on the ship's bridge when the accident happened.
http://gourl.gr/ol7
http://gourl.gr/ol7
If those reports are, indeed, accurate, I'm surprised they haven't been more widely disseminated.
Mike
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[QUOTE=mikeef;17843636]Mikester --
Check:
From the Spanish media:
http://tinyurl.com/7kf3vzm
From the Italian media:
http://tinyurl.com/6wte2yw
From the Moldavan media:
http://www.jurnaltv.md/ro/news/moldo...cordia-328660/
and from the British media:
http://tinyurl.com/6vltb3f
Check:
From the Spanish media:
http://tinyurl.com/7kf3vzm
From the Italian media:
http://tinyurl.com/6wte2yw
From the Moldavan media:
http://www.jurnaltv.md/ro/news/moldo...cordia-328660/
and from the British media:
http://tinyurl.com/6vltb3f
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The latest BS from the Captain is that the reason he left passengers behind on the ship was because "he tripped and fell into a lifeboat"!
In my 61 years on this earth, the BS story of all time!
Worldspan
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In my 61 years on this earth, the BS story of all time!
Worldspan
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Or, as one cynic put it on a jokes page -- "I can well imagine that he did fall into the lifeboat. I once fell into bed with my wife's sister. Had a devil of a time getting out."
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The Captain might've been in charge of the ship sailing in shallow water, but he definitely was NOT alone up on the bridget/control room - there's a group of officers and crew up there working alongside, keeping the watch & making sure things are running according to plans. Lots of unanswered questions (discussed over at cruisecritics . com) about the (in)actions of the 1st. officer in charge, 2nd. officer and others on duty.
As far as I am concerned, I don't have a problem with the Captain dining & wining (although drinking isn't a good idea) with a female as he is entitled to time off when his duty/shift is over - that's why the ship has 2nd. and 3rd. officers that can take full charge in his absence. In this case, it looked & sounded to be a major failure in the chains of command & control, and the junior crews were left on their own (as being posted in cruisecritic's board) to struggle with getting the lifeboats loaded, launched & released - literally in the dark and water flowing in.
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[QUOTE=spainflyer;17843669]
Mikester --
Check:
From the Spanish media:
http://tinyurl.com/7kf3vzm
From the Italian media:
http://tinyurl.com/6wte2yw
From the Moldavan media:
http://www.jurnaltv.md/ro/news/moldo...cordia-328660/
and from the British media:
http://tinyurl.com/6vltb3f
Double
I saw that first bit yesterday. I'm bringing those three to Vegas with me; They must be the luckiest SOB's in the history of the world.
Mike
Mikester --
Check:
From the Spanish media:
http://tinyurl.com/7kf3vzm
From the Italian media:
http://tinyurl.com/6wte2yw
From the Moldavan media:
http://www.jurnaltv.md/ro/news/moldo...cordia-328660/
and from the British media:
http://tinyurl.com/6vltb3f
It turns out that he fell into the lifeboat with his #2 officer Dmitri, as well as the third in command. Fancy that! The things that happen!
Or, as one cynic put it on a jokes page -- "I can well imagine that he did fall into the lifeboat. I once fell into bed with my wife's sister. Had a devil of a time getting out."
Or, as one cynic put it on a jokes page -- "I can well imagine that he did fall into the lifeboat. I once fell into bed with my wife's sister. Had a devil of a time getting out."
Mike
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Yes, according to reports the lovely Domnika Cemortan was up there to help out. Could she be a part of the problem? Authorities are looking for her but have so far been unsuccessful.