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Old Mar 28, 19, 12:00 pm
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Supposedly the card itself won't have contactless but there'll be some sort of mechanism for the phone to read it wirelessly during the activation process: https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/n...for-activation
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Old Mar 28, 19, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by tmiw View Post
Supposedly the card itself won't have contactless but there'll be some sort of mechanism for the phone to read it wirelessly during the activation process: https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/n...for-activation
I'm not sure how that would work. Isn't it made of titanium? I thought metals didn't mesh well with any kind of wireless technology.
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Old Mar 28, 19, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by mikesyr18 View Post
I'm not sure how that would work. Isn't it made of titanium? I thought metals didn't mesh well with any kind of wireless technology.
So you think Apple gives you the card with real Titanium?? This metal is just slightly cheaper than gold. Also the cost to work on the metal or alloy.

Do not get fooled by all the marketing gimmicks....
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Think layers. May have a metal layer and other layers for the wireless electronics.

No idea who apple is using as a supplier but this video may give some ideas on how it would be done.

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Old Mar 28, 19, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by RedSun View Post
So you think Apple gives you the card with real Titanium?? This metal is just slightly cheaper than gold. Also the cost to work on the metal or alloy.

Do not get fooled by all the marketing gimmicks....
II thought it'd be sandwiched with titanium in the middle and plastic on the outside, sorta like the Chase Sapphire Preferred with its sandwiched plastic/metal.
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Old Mar 28, 19, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by mikesyr18 View Post
.... I thought metals didn't mesh well with any kind of wireless technology.
There are contactless metal cards, which have a layer of plastic bonded to the metal to hold the contactless elements. Apple's card could have an RFID chip storing the data needed for their own setup process (i.e. an inventory tag), but not the information needed to authorize payments.
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Old Mar 28, 19, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by mikesyr18 View Post
II thought it'd be sandwiched with titanium in the middle and plastic on the outside, sorta like the Chase Sapphire Preferred with its sandwiched plastic/metal.
The $900 price is the Platinum, and Titanium is cheaper. The heaviest metal cards are JPMorgan Reserve and the JMP Ritz Carlton cards, about 27 grams, or just about one ounce.

The cost to make a metal card like Chase CSR is like $5 to $10. I think Apple's card may cost about the same range.

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Old Mar 28, 19, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by mia View Post
There are contactless metal cards, which have a layer of plastic bonded to the metal to hold the contactless elements. Apple's card could have an RFID chip storing the data needed for their own setup process (i.e. an inventory tag), but not the information needed to authorize payments.
It could even be a standard contactless card that disables the contactless interface when given a command by the iPhone during the activation process. That'd probably save them from having to include a second chip, anyway.
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Old Mar 28, 19, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by RedSun View Post
So you think Apple gives you the card with real Titanium?? This metal is just slightly cheaper than gold. Also the cost to work on the metal or alloy.

Do not get fooled by all the marketing gimmicks....
There are no marketing gimmicks. Why would they lie about the material?

Apple is no stranger to titanium. Nearly 20 years ago, the PowerBook laptops were made from it:

Apple Unveils New Titanium PowerBook G4


Originally Posted by mia View Post
Apple's card could have an RFID chip storing the data needed for their own setup process (i.e. an inventory tag), but not the information needed to authorize payments.
It will almost certainly be an NFC tag in the card.
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Old Mar 28, 19, 11:15 pm
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Out of curiosity, are there other cards out there made out of titanium? Could Apple's be the first?
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Old Mar 29, 19, 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by tmiw View Post
Out of curiosity, are there other cards out there made out of titanium? Could Apple's be the first?
Amex for one.
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Old Mar 29, 19, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by gsxsilver View Post
Amex for one.
Just looked it up and apparently that's on the Centurion card. For such a high AF/exclusivity you'd think they'd have gone with a more expensive metal or something.
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Originally Posted by mia View Post
There are contactless metal cards, which have a layer of plastic bonded to the metal to hold the contactless elements. ...
From what I've read here, the contactless range on those are very weak compared to plastic counterparts.

The AMEX Platinum is a good example - the back is different than on the non-contactless version because of the contactless feature.
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