Samsung Pay with MST Mode
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Once again thanks for quick replies.
Related question - I am planning to buy second-hand S6 specifically for this purpose once I am back in States. There were reports that only S6 phones which were sold in US can work with MST mode - international S6 were missing the magnetic coil.
Honestly, have not bought anything phone/electronics related since I relocated overseas >6 years ago and have no idea what are now available/appropriate channels. Back several years ago Ebay and Craigslist were the only realistic options, but I am afraid that either it will be stolen goods which blocked IEMI or gray import from Asia/Europe which misses the coil.
Any suggestions?
Related question - I am planning to buy second-hand S6 specifically for this purpose once I am back in States. There were reports that only S6 phones which were sold in US can work with MST mode - international S6 were missing the magnetic coil.
Honestly, have not bought anything phone/electronics related since I relocated overseas >6 years ago and have no idea what are now available/appropriate channels. Back several years ago Ebay and Craigslist were the only realistic options, but I am afraid that either it will be stolen goods which blocked IEMI or gray import from Asia/Europe which misses the coil.
Any suggestions?
If you have a friend in the States, you can maybe have that person order $99 Boost Mobile version currently on sale:
https://www.boostmobile.com/?INTCID=...es/Black,32GB/
I believe it will be locked to Boost Mobile network so that may be a consideration, or pay to have it unlocked by a 3rd party service; or buy unlocked preowned on Swappa.
I've bought and sold phones on Swappa, and they are pretty legit because they require the phone to go through IMEI check before being listed.
I've also bought and sold phones on eBay and it is relatively safe because of buyer's assurance program now available.
Craigslist would be last resort because you have no recourse, unless it was new phone that has a warranty
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Understandable, but for me cost has the preference. I don't wear watches last 18 years and already have a phone - need to have less number of stuff carried with me.
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askST: Why is Samsung Pay not available for the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge?, Smartphones News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
If you have a friend in the States, you can maybe have that person order $99 Boost Mobile version currently on sale:
I believe it will be locked to Boost Mobile network so that may be a consideration, or pay to have it unlocked by a 3rd party service; or buy unlocked preowned on Swappa.
I believe it will be locked to Boost Mobile network so that may be a consideration, or pay to have it unlocked by a 3rd party service; or buy unlocked preowned on Swappa.
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Here, there was an article in local paper
askST: Why is Samsung Pay not available for the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge?, Smartphones News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
Thanks for the link. I am going to call them to ask about network locking.
askST: Why is Samsung Pay not available for the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge?, Smartphones News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
Thanks for the link. I am going to call them to ask about network locking.
As for Boost Mobile, from what I have read, they are locked to their network and require 12 months of service to unlock. However, perhaps there are 3rd party unlock services that can circumvent that.
I can't vouch for this service since I haven't used them:
How To Unlock Samsung Galaxy S6 By Unlock Code To Work With Any Network
May want to see if they can unlock Boost phones; or check eBay for some services.
Almost certain Boost will not unlock without being a subscriber already.
Good luck.
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Thanks. If all lost, it is $100....
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The biggest obstacles are:
Card terminals that require you to insert the card vs swiping (gas stations and ATMs)
Card terminals that are handled by employees who insist they don't work because they can't accept Apple Pay (they just assume Apple Pay and refuse to try)
Card terminals that require you to insert the card vs swiping (gas stations and ATMs)
Card terminals that are handled by employees who insist they don't work because they can't accept Apple Pay (they just assume Apple Pay and refuse to try)
Well, my three attempts last weekend to use MST mode ended up exactly in categories above - in one store they told me that they need to insert card with chip to enter amount and don't do swiping.
In two other stores clerks flat out refused to try pay with phone telling that 'we do not accept contactless payments'. My attempt to explain that technology is different was useless - was told 'go and find another store which will accept your payment'. Yes.
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Ok, got old Galaxy S7 specifically for MST purchases - here is Singapore one bank has a promotion to earn 4 miles per $ spent when using Samsung/Android/Apple pay.
Well, my three attempts last weekend to use MST mode ended up exactly in categories above - in one store they told me that they need to insert card with chip to enter amount and don't do swiping.
In two other stores clerks flat out refused to try pay with phone telling that 'we do not accept contactless payments'. My attempt to explain that technology is different was useless - was told 'go and find another store which will accept your payment'. Yes.
Well, my three attempts last weekend to use MST mode ended up exactly in categories above - in one store they told me that they need to insert card with chip to enter amount and don't do swiping.
In two other stores clerks flat out refused to try pay with phone telling that 'we do not accept contactless payments'. My attempt to explain that technology is different was useless - was told 'go and find another store which will accept your payment'. Yes.
I did this a couple of times at a local place I frequent, and after the 3rd time doing this, a coworker piped up to the cashier processing my order, saying, "Yes, it does work. Just run it like a regular card".
This obviously is much harder when the terminal/swipe is facing the cashier and not you; for those scenarios, I would ask if they mind I try something new that should work on their older payment systems. Half the time, the cashier would be open to it, other half, it would be no, it doesn't work and it won't. Sometimes just have to gauge the interest/resistance to something they aren't familiar with.
It's a battle sometimes, and really those of us who were early adopters have to push and fight our way into mainstream acceptance :P
One thing I am curious in is whether network connectivity/signal is required to have Samsung Pay work. In my experience, I'm always connected so I see the transaction go through on my phone within seconds of the "swipe". If there isn't a connection to the internet, I wonder if that will cause any issues.
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One thing I am curious in is whether network connectivity/signal is required to have Samsung Pay work. In my experience, I'm always connected so I see the transaction go through on my phone within seconds of the "swipe". If there isn't a connection to the internet, I wonder if that will cause any issues.
From here: https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00045193/
Do I need to have an active internet connection for Samsung Pay to work?
Samsung Pay requires an active internet connection when adding or removing a payment card and to download transaction history. You can connect via a Wi-Fi network or using your mobile data connection. When you are using Samsung Pay to make a purchase, no internet connection is needed. However, some networks will limit you to 10 transactions during a period without internet access, after which Samsung Pay will require an active internet connection. We recommend connecting to the internet at least once per day to ensure Samsung Pay stays up to date.
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I have a Galaxy S8 and I'm excited to try out MST with Samsung Pay. I think it's getting accepted in fewer and fewer places but I still want to give it a shot.
Where would a good place be to try out MST and see whether it's working/how it feels?
Ideally I would be looking for a
Where would a good place be to try out MST and see whether it's working/how it feels?
Ideally I would be looking for a
- national chain with standardized systems,
- that is open nights/weekends/early mornings so I can try it out without worrying about delaying someone in line behind me,
- with a self-checkout where MST works, and not one of the "eat your card and hold onto it" types like at a gas station.
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I have a Galaxy S8 and I'm excited to try out MST with Samsung Pay. I think it's getting accepted in fewer and fewer places but I still want to give it a shot.
Where would a good place be to try out MST and see whether it's working/how it feels?
Ideally I would be looking for a
Where would a good place be to try out MST and see whether it's working/how it feels?
Ideally I would be looking for a
- national chain with standardized systems,
- that is open nights/weekends/early mornings so I can try it out without worrying about delaying someone in line behind me,
- with a self-checkout where MST works, and not one of the "eat your card and hold onto it" types like at a gas station.
That said, way more places do NFC now than back when this thread first started, so MST may not be all that necessary anymore. Also, I know that Samsung stopped offering MST on newer devices and may be only activating NFC on older ones (but not sure on that last bit).
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