Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
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Personal Card
Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
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Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Barclays AAdvantage Aviator PERSONAL Card (2016 - 2023)
Sep 30, 2017, 12:53 pm
#601
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,577
So your newest Aviator was approved while an older Aviator was still open? I assume the one you mentioned that you closed was from the Dec16+ batch?
Sep 30, 2017, 1:03 pm
#602
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: Spg Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 1,578
Sep 30, 2017, 6:47 pm
#603
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 275
I am still debating whether to close my old Aviator card converted from US Airways MC in order to get the new 60k promo approved. But looks like you are able to keep an old Aviator, assuming also converted from US Air MC, while still getting a new Aviator approved? Thanks again for your comments and tips.
Sep 30, 2017, 7:09 pm
#604
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313
Thanks PETERPNYC for your DP. I thought you closed all your Aviator cars in order to get one approved. So did you already close the Aviator card opened in Jan 2017 before you get approved for the recent one?
I am still debating whether to close my old Aviator card converted from US Airways MC in order to get the new 60k promo approved. But looks like you are able to keep an old Aviator, assuming also converted from US Air MC, while still getting a new Aviator approved? Thanks again for your comments and tips.
I am still debating whether to close my old Aviator card converted from US Airways MC in order to get the new 60k promo approved. But looks like you are able to keep an old Aviator, assuming also converted from US Air MC, while still getting a new Aviator approved? Thanks again for your comments and tips.
If it helps, I had the US Airways MC that was converted to Aviator Red. I closed this one a month or two after I got the bonus. Then in December~ish last year, I got the Aviator Red for 40k miles. Wish I held out for more though. While still having that Aviator Red, I applied for another Aviator Red monday of last week. I got the we'll let you know message. After talking with what I'm assuming is the world's nicest employee having an extremely nice night at barclaycard, she approved me for a second red card.
Going to my online account, I see the 60k bonus I'm eligible for. And yesterday, I got an email that also acknowledged the 60k bonus I'm eligible for. So it's possible to get approved for a new Aviator without cancelling your current one. I think it all depends on who at barclaycard picks up the phone.
Sep 30, 2017, 8:26 pm
#605
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,710
Update:
I currently have an Aviator card; I applied for a new card and received the "10 day" message. I called the Reconsideration number in the Wiki (866-408-4064, also sent to me in PM as the "backdoor" number). Agent told me I was denied, and that it was because I already had an Aviator; I tried to explain that I wanted the extra card to keep business expenses separate but she said there is no reconsideration for this. I then called the customer service number, asked for a manager, and explained the situation to a manager and said I'd like to talk to a credit analyst. She transferred me to one, who said he could pull my credit report and see. After doing so, he said I can get the new card if I shift credit from my current card, which of course I agreed to.
Takeaway: the Reconsiderations/backdoor number may or may not be the same department as the credit analysts; if it is the same, then it seems very much to depend on which agent you get.
I currently have an Aviator card; I applied for a new card and received the "10 day" message. I called the Reconsideration number in the Wiki (866-408-4064, also sent to me in PM as the "backdoor" number). Agent told me I was denied, and that it was because I already had an Aviator; I tried to explain that I wanted the extra card to keep business expenses separate but she said there is no reconsideration for this. I then called the customer service number, asked for a manager, and explained the situation to a manager and said I'd like to talk to a credit analyst. She transferred me to one, who said he could pull my credit report and see. After doing so, he said I can get the new card if I shift credit from my current card, which of course I agreed to.
Takeaway: the Reconsiderations/backdoor number may or may not be the same department as the credit analysts; if it is the same, then it seems very much to depend on which agent you get.
Sep 30, 2017, 9:53 pm
#606
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 275
Oct 1, 2017, 1:07 pm
#607
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,577
If it helps, I had the US Airways MC that was converted to Aviator Red. I closed this one a month or two after I got the bonus. Then in December~ish last year, I got the Aviator Red for 40k miles. Wish I held out for more though. While still having that Aviator Red, I applied for another Aviator Red monday of last week. I got the we'll let you know message. After talking with what I'm assuming is the world's nicest employee having an extremely nice night at barclaycard, she approved me for a second red card.
Going to my online account, I see the 60k bonus I'm eligible for. And yesterday, I got an email that also acknowledged the 60k bonus I'm eligible for. So it's possible to get approved for a new Aviator without cancelling your current one. I think it all depends on who at barclaycard picks up the phone.
Going to my online account, I see the 60k bonus I'm eligible for. And yesterday, I got an email that also acknowledged the 60k bonus I'm eligible for. So it's possible to get approved for a new Aviator without cancelling your current one. I think it all depends on who at barclaycard picks up the phone.
Thanks. So now this adds to the conflicting DP's. I guess it's still not a hard rule for denial if having an open dec16+ aviator.
Oct 1, 2017, 10:59 pm
#608
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313
I can't remember the exact wording but the rep I spoke to said something along the lines of current card being aviator red and the card I applied for being aadvantage aviator red, she would submit my application for approval.
I recently got my statement that included the first purchase plus the annual fee. I'll be able to submit a dp on whether applicants like me get the bonus credited.
Oct 1, 2017, 11:20 pm
#609
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,577
I can't remember the exact wording but the rep I spoke to said something along the lines of current card being aviator red and the card I applied for being aadvantage aviator red, she would submit my application for approval.
I recently got my statement that included the first purchase plus the annual fee. I'll be able to submit a dp on whether applicants like me get the bonus credited.
I recently got my statement that included the first purchase plus the annual fee. I'll be able to submit a dp on whether applicants like me get the bonus credited.
Oct 2, 2017, 8:18 am
#610
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: NJ (EWR) - USA
Programs: UA Silver - IHG Spire AMB - Hilton Gold - Choice Hotels Platinum - Hertz Gold FiveStar
Posts: 396
Just applied for the AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard this morning (Currently at 5/24 with Chase) and surprisingly got the generic "we need more time" message. Excellent credit, good income & FICO 800+. 
So I called the credit line at (866) 408-4064. No reason specifically was stated for the hold, but I suggested it might have been due to my high credit line ($32.5K) with my only other Barclaycard account, the Carnival World MC.
After a short hold rep came back and said Yes, if you want to rebalance your credit line I can approve this new app. right now. So that's what I did, transfered $15k in credit from the Carnival card for the new Aviator Red and should see it in a few days. ^
So I called the credit line at (866) 408-4064. No reason specifically was stated for the hold, but I suggested it might have been due to my high credit line ($32.5K) with my only other Barclaycard account, the Carnival World MC.
After a short hold rep came back and said Yes, if you want to rebalance your credit line I can approve this new app. right now. So that's what I did, transfered $15k in credit from the Carnival card for the new Aviator Red and should see it in a few days. ^
Oct 3, 2017, 2:51 pm
#611
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: All of them, Katie
Posts: 224
I currently have an Aviator Red that was converted from an old US Airways card, and I used to have another Aviator card applied for as a Red, upgraded to a Silver, and then canceled this past summer sometime. I thought I'd give it a go with another Red application given the conflicting reports. Unfortunately, I was insta-denied without credit pulled.
Oct 4, 2017, 7:35 pm
#612
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313
I currently have an Aviator Red that was converted from an old US Airways card, and I used to have another Aviator card applied for as a Red, upgraded to a Silver, and then canceled this past summer sometime. I thought I'd give it a go with another Red application given the conflicting reports. Unfortunately, I was insta-denied without credit pulled.
It's worth a shot calling the backdoor number or a credit analyst at barclaycard. My app was denied not even 10 minutes after I submitted the app. Called backdoor number and after a bit of back and forth, the rep submitted my application again and I was approved.
Oct 4, 2017, 7:58 pm
#613
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,710
DP: closed Aviator Red 35 days ago. Instant denial today - no HP.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Oct 4, 2017, 9:16 pm
#615
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313