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Old Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
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Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.



AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD

2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html


The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.

In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.

This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835

As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)

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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.


Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).

There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.

Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.











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Old Jul 22, 2019, 4:23 pm
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how long until your 60K sign up promotional miles post? (im sure its here, but ive looked a few pages and no dice)

Im past first statement and paid yet no 60K
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by waterskifly
Im past first statement and paid yet no 60K
Was the annual fee billed on the first statement?
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
That's a bit vague. Are you saying your last bonus and close were both over 24 months ago? And the agent said "2 years ago" anyway?
Sorry about that! My product/account was closed 2 years ago.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Ripper3785
I've had this card for a number of years but ready to dump it with the dropping of the 10K anniversary miles. I just got my final 10K, the month before the new $99 AF posted. If I close the card now, will they claw back the 10K?
Since I got no response on this, I've volunteered to be a data point on this. I closed my account and will reply if barclays claws back my 10k anniversary bonus.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 7:48 am
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The other options are to take it home and mail it yourself OR apply online with the code. FA’s are interested in dropping them in the Barclay box ASAP to get their commission.
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Old Jul 25, 2019, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by stillmatic
Sorry about that! My product/account was closed 2 years ago.
So... over 24 months ago? Still not clear. And if it was just over 24 months, we know banks don't always agree with our count so we need to wait a bit longer just to be sure.

For the sake of argument, let's assume it was enough over 24 months. Then the only way agent's statement makes sense is if there is a longer time limit and we don't know what it is. Far more likely, of course, is that the agent had no idea what he was talking about, and your app got rejected for some other reason. Surely you received a letter telling you what it really was?

For relevant DPs, I had to scroll all the way back to early April, where rje444 was approved after just 2 months, and RedElmo applied after over 2 years but I don't think we ever heard the result. So the matter still seems unsettled to me.
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 7:52 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Can anyone link me to some of the terms or help regarding the trip delay protection?

1) what’s the mileage distance from your home for the protection to apply for the initial flight of an itinerary? Say your not departing from your home city but the initial flight on an itinerary was delayed.
2) can you even claim a massive delay on the first flight of an itinerary anywhere?
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by RedElmo


Best to keep for 11 months even for churning.
Originally Posted by B747forever
Any particular reason why? I can imagine it looks better on your end when you apply for a new card with the same issuer, but otherwise I dont see why it should stay open longer.
Banks do NOT like churners. It could get you black listed. Amex is using this reason, among others, to reject folks, including me. Barclay may be next. Maybe Chase too. Tread lightly.
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Old Aug 13, 2019, 1:32 pm
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I opened the card in Jan-18, and closed in Feb-19. Just tried opening it again last week, no instant approval. Called today said I was denied (w/o a HP) due to the fact that I had had the card within 24 months. Said that I would not eligible until 24 months after I closed the card.... ....

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Old Aug 13, 2019, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by bdubs7
I opened the card in Jan-18, and closed in Feb-19. Just tried opening it again last week, no instant approval. Called today said I was denied (w/o a HP) due to the fact that I had had the card within 24 months. Said that I would not eligible until 24 months after I closed the card.... ....
Did you expect a different result?
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Old Aug 15, 2019, 8:31 am
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I thought I had read of people getting approved anyways (i.e. Barclays rules were clear, but that their systems were inconsistent in applying it).
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Old Aug 15, 2019, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by bdubs7
I thought I had read of people getting approved anyways (i.e. Barclays rules were clear, but that their systems were inconsistent in applying it).
There was indeed a time when their systems weren't enforcing the 24-month rule, and you could get away with applying just a few months later, as long as the app didn't trigger anything to put human eyes on it. That time is no more.

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Old Aug 22, 2019, 10:59 am
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Barclay Aviator Red AF did not post in first cycle

I was approved for the Aviator Red on 8/15. Offer was 60K AA miles after 1 purchase and payment of AF. Also I think I get a companion cert up front in addition to the anniversary cert but. Anyway, I got the card on 8/16 and made two purchased for $21, then the statement closed on 8/19 and yesterday I looked at the statement and it was for only $21 and I only got 21 miles. There was no AF charged and no bonus miles yet. How long should it be before they assess the AF and apply the bonus miles?
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Old Aug 22, 2019, 11:52 am
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The 24 month rule seems to have been replaced by: This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. ......

This could be bad news if they enforce it.
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Old Aug 22, 2019, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by philemer
The 24 month rule seems to have been replaced by: This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. ......

This could be bad news if they enforce it.
Yes, that change has been in place for about a year. But as bdubs7 noted, there's been discussion of this and DPs show it isn't always (or even usually?) enforced. There is reason to believe that if you meet the old 24 month rule, and haven't made Barclay unhappy with you (like, by not using your previous card enough), they won't enforce this.
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